Democrat sit-in on House floor

[Clocker]

Brilliant. This will really change some minds.

Democrats are holding a sit-in on the floor of the House to demand a vote on their no-fly gun control proposal. Rep. John Lewis led the demonstration by calling Democrats down to the floor and giving a brief speech which concluded, “Now is the time to get in the way. The time to act is now. We will be silent no more.”

What does he mean, now is the time to get in the way? The government in general and the Dems in particular have been getting in the way of the American people for decades.

Take a look at the pictures and see if they look any different than usual, except for where they are sitting and doing nothing.

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/06/22/democrats-are-holding-a-sit-in-on-the-house-floor/

[Tom]

Then go sit in the senate, where their fellow losers voted donw this very issue the other day.

How stupid do these dumocrats get?

I would call the Sgt at Arms to hand out a few wood shampoos and move the trash out to the curb where it belongs.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by Tom

I would call the Sgt at Arms to hand out a few wood shampoos and move the trash out to the curb where it belongs.

The Dems are whining because CSPAN turned the cameras off. What's the point of demonstrating your beliefs if you can't get face time for it?

The Sgt. at Arms should just turn off the lights in there and save the electricity.

[Boris]

The Sheila Jackson Lee tweets are gonna be comedy gold. Only politician I follow and SO worth it.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by Boris

The Sheila Jackson Lee tweets are gonna be comedy gold. Only politician I follow and SO worth it.

Do you really expect us to believe that that woman is capable of tweeting?

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by Tom

Then go sit in the senate, where their fellow losers voted donw this very issue the other day.

How stupid do these dumocrats get?

I would call the Sgt at Arms to hand out a few wood shampoos and move the trash out to the curb where it belongs.

Not nearly as stupid as someone who posts something that is the exact opposite of what happened. It was the Republicans who voted down the ban on gun sales to people on the no fly list.

Here is the amendment: On the Cloture Motion S.Amdt. 4720: Motion to Invoke Cloture on Amdt. No. 4720; To authorize the Attorney General to deny requests to transfer a firearm to known or suspected terrorists.

Here is the vote by position on the subject:
Yeas---47
Ayotte (R-NH)
Baldwin (D-WI)
Bennet (D-CO)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Booker (D-NJ)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Coons (D-DE)
Donnelly (D-IN)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Heinrich (D-NM)
Hirono (D-HI)
Kaine (D-VA)
King (I-ME)
Kirk (R-IL)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Leahy (D-VT)
Manchin (D-WV)
Markey (D-MA)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murphy (D-CT)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Peters (D-MI)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schatz (D-HI)
Schumer (D-NY)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Udall (D-NM)
Warner (D-VA)
Warren (D-MA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)

NAYs ---53
Alexander (R-TN)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Burr (R-NC)
Capito (R-WV)
Cassidy (R-LA)
Coats (R-IN)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Cotton (R-AR)
Crapo (R-ID)
Cruz (R-TX)
Daines (R-MT)
Enzi (R-WY)
Ernst (R-IA)
Fischer (R-NE)
Flake (R-AZ)
Gardner (R-CO)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Heitkamp (D-ND)
Heller (R-NV)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johnson (R-WI)
Lankford (R-OK)
Lee (R-UT)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Moran (R-KS)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Paul (R-KY)
Perdue (R-GA)
Portman (R-OH)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rounds (R-SD)
Rubio (R-FL)
Sasse (R-NE)
Scott (R-SC)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Sullivan (R-AK)
Thune (R-SD)
Tillis (R-NC)
Toomey (R-PA)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wicker (R-MS)

Notice that all of the NAYS are Republicans. All the Yeas are Democrats-plus two Republicans.

Also notice that the Amendment in question was offered by Senator Diane Feinstein a democrat.

[Tor Ekman]

Let them sit there forever, as long as they are on their collective asses, they won't be passing other idiotic legislation. More often than not, the best government action is inaction

[boxcar]

Too bad the Sarge at Arms can't lock those suckers in, cutting off their food supply -- until eventually they turn to eat one another, of course.

[pandy]

All I know is, they'd better get a gun bill through soon and at the very least it has to block people on the no fly list and people on the terrorist list. The fact that these people can buy guns is an outrage.

[johnhannibalsmith]

Except for given the current state of the no-fly list and politics in general, they'd probably just start populating it (no fly) with names from the phone book.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by johnhannibalsmith

Except for given the current state of the no-fly list and politics in general, they'd probably just start populating it (no fly) with names from the phone book.

Yeah...we'd end up with tens of thousands of grandmas and little grandkids on that list. This is exactly what they would do. Law enforcement would be empowered to put virtually anyone on that list, starting with all registered Republicans. (Remember how the IRS has abused its power?)

[reckless]

Originally Posted by mostpost

Not nearly as stupid as someone who posts something that is the exact opposite of what happened. It was the Republicans who voted down the ban on gun sales to people on the no fly list.

Here is the amendment: On the Cloture Motion S.Amdt. 4720: Motion to Invoke Cloture on Amdt. No. 4720; To authorize the Attorney General to deny requests to transfer a firearm to known or suspected terrorists.

Here is the vote by position on the subject:
Yeas---47
Ayotte (R-NH)
Baldwin (D-WI)
Bennet (D-CO)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Booker (D-NJ)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Coons (D-DE)
Donnelly (D-IN)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Heinrich (D-NM)
Hirono (D-HI)
Kaine (D-VA)
King (I-ME)
Kirk (R-IL)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Leahy (D-VT)
Manchin (D-WV)
Markey (D-MA)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murphy (D-CT)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Peters (D-MI)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schatz (D-HI)
Schumer (D-NY)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Udall (D-NM)
Warner (D-VA)
Warren (D-MA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)

NAYs ---53
Alexander (R-TN)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Burr (R-NC)
Capito (R-WV)
Cassidy (R-LA)
Coats (R-IN)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Cotton (R-AR)
Crapo (R-ID)
Cruz (R-TX)
Daines (R-MT)
Enzi (R-WY)
Ernst (R-IA)
Fischer (R-NE)
Flake (R-AZ)
Gardner (R-CO)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Heitkamp (D-ND)
Heller (R-NV)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johnson (R-WI)
Lankford (R-OK)
Lee (R-UT)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Moran (R-KS)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Paul (R-KY)
Perdue (R-GA)
Portman (R-OH)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rounds (R-SD)
Rubio (R-FL)
Sasse (R-NE)
Scott (R-SC)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Sullivan (R-AK)
Thune (R-SD)
Tillis (R-NC)
Toomey (R-PA)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wicker (R-MS)

Notice that all of the NAYS are Republicans. All the Yeas are Democrats-plus two Republicans.

Also notice that the Amendment in question was offered by Senator Diane Feinstein a democrat.

Mosty... take a deep breathe for a second, really.

All four gun control bills were b-shat, especially Feinstein's but all were actually written and designed specifically for them to lose without any senator getting any real heat at home because of any of their votes.

This is the type of ruse often foisted on the electorate by our representatives. Not a single senator running in November will be hurt believe me. They will all say they did their best to ---- ... fill in the blank depending on their constituency.

You must have have noticed that each of the four bills --regardless of the sponsor-- had both Republicans and Democrats voting either for it and also against it.

It was really just a bi-partisan sleight of hand, with the American people being the marks in the Senate's game of 4-Bill Monty.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by mostpost

Not nearly as stupid as someone who posts something that is the exact opposite of what happened. It was the Republicans who voted down the ban on gun sales to people on the no fly list.

Here is the amendment: On the Cloture Motion S.Amdt. 4720: Motion to Invoke Cloture on Amdt. No. 4720; To authorize the Attorney General to deny requests to transfer a firearm to known or suspected terrorists.

There were two bills dealing with the no fly list. The one you list here was the Democrat bill that included no procedure for due process for anyone wrongly put on the no fly list.

Feinstein as usual far exceeded the limits of rational thought. She wanted to deny a gun sale to anyone on the list or anyone who was not on the list but had been on the list within the last 5 years.

The Republican bill was similar, but included protection for due process to get off the list. If anyone claimed that they did not belong on the list, the DOJ had 72 hours to present evidence to a judge justifying inclusion on the list. That one was killed by the Democrats.

[Clocker]

As with Humpty Dumpty in Wonderland, Senator Feinstein contends that words mean exactly what she wants them to mean. The term "no-fly list", for example, does not mean just the no-fly list, as a rational person might think.

The Senate amendment in question, proposed by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, would have applied to a much larger group than the no-fly list. As we reported in December, Feinstein’s office told us the measure, which would have allowed the attorney general to block gun sales to individuals on these lists, would have included a few terrorist databases, and the no-fly list is a subset of one of them.

The largest of the databases is the Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment, or TIDE, which included 1.1 million people as of December 2013. The second is the FBI’s Terrorist Screening Database, which is referred to simply as the Terrorist Watchlist, and contained about 800,000 names, Christopher M. Piehota, the Terrorist Screening Center director, said in congressional testimony on Sept. 18, 2014. The no-fly list is a part of that database. It contains about 64,000 names, according to Piehota’s testimony.




http://www.factcheck.org/2016/06/not...e-no-fly-list/

[pandy]

I don't understand this. If the Republicans control the house, why can't they vote in the bill that they want? Oh, that's right, they are shills for the NRA.