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03-15-2014, 12:32 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Virginia
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Beyer or Bris (Speed Figures) One Only?
If you could only have one or the other available., which would you choose?
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03-15-2014, 12:34 PM
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Racing Form Detective
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lincoln, Ne but my heart is at Santa Anita
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Beyer's
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03-15-2014, 12:47 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Chicagoland
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Without question, Beyer figs.
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03-15-2014, 12:54 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: VALLEY STREAM ny
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Bris
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03-15-2014, 01:09 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Virginia
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Score : 2 Beyer, 1 Bris
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03-15-2014, 01:41 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
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Don't care. I don't rely on extremely accurate differentials in speed figures. As long as they are internally consistent, that is all I need. For everything else, Bris beats DRF hands down.
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03-15-2014, 01:44 PM
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C'est Tout
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Cajunland
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BRIS offers pace figs, so on that basis alone I choose BRIS.
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03-15-2014, 01:49 PM
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Join Date: May 2001
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Doesn't matter if you have to ask that question.
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03-15-2014, 02:00 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour
BRIS offers pace figs, so on that basis alone I choose BRIS.
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Bris Ultimate PPs also have class figs. I have just started using them, and preliminary indications are that they are very good. The Ultimate PPs are nominally $3 a card, but if you sign up for "Silver", they are $1.50. No charge for "Silver" except a $30 a month minimum purchase.
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03-15-2014, 02:01 PM
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Veteran
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Location: Virginia
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Some_One
Doesn't matter if you have to ask that question.
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Now there's a helpful answer. And yes I get what you're saying... I had a reason...you can return to your E-pony figs
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03-15-2014, 02:02 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Queens, NY
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I don't think there's any comparison between Beyer and Bris. If you are a Formulator user, the gap is monstrous.
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03-15-2014, 02:02 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Virginia
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and no charge at all with any type of bet on that card at Twinspires.
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03-15-2014, 02:37 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 46,830
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Neither, but of course I'm biased!
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03-15-2014, 02:59 PM
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clean money
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Maryland
Posts: 23,559
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BEYER
Timeform-US (seriously)
but of the two, BEYER - I'm not a big speed figure nut, so I can't say that I have every element of the figures mastered (like some others on this board), but I have noticed that Bris seems to to inflate some of the cheaper races(and not just legitimately fast races where a speed got out on an uncontested dream trip). Beyer seems to go the opposite way and maybe incorporates class level and prior earned Beyers a bit into the figure. Of the two choices I'd rather take Beyer, than see a cheaper contender showing one of the best last out speed figures that really wasn't.
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Last edited by Robert Fischer; 03-15-2014 at 03:02 PM.
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03-15-2014, 03:08 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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Looking at a race through a speed figure is like looking at a room through a keyhole.
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