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07-02-2017, 03:21 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 46,834
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Originally Posted by Tom
OK, the WO, the King Edward.
Top last out fig horse, albeit from a synth race, just paid over $90.
One thing I learned over the synth BCs at SA, I make no distinctions between turf and synth. So to me, this was the 4 rules horse.
I just bet a token $2 WPS on it. I really liked the , who was the second top last out fig.
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Best priced winner I've had in quite some time!
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07-02-2017, 03:42 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Woodbine
Posts: 2,657
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Best priced winner I've had in quite some time!
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Very nice hit cj.
I thought Tom was anti-Woodbine? I must have been mistaken....
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07-02-2017, 04:06 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
Posts: 112,955
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I'm back, WO and Bel. Then Toga.
I had to give WO a year with the new surface.
Just can't beat the turf races.
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07-03-2017, 01:43 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: White Plains, NY
Posts: 5,315
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the best prices for me always came when I could justify using a back number.
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07-03-2017, 02:01 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 46,834
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andicap
the best prices for me always came when I could justify using a back number.
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Totally agree, and probably true with most figures. But you do get an occasional gem on last race now and then.
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12-17-2017, 09:24 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 10
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Am I correct that there is no pace figure at the four furlong mark in 5 and 5.5 furlongs?
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12-17-2017, 11:42 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 46,834
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tennoel
Am I correct that there is no pace figure at the four furlong mark in 5 and 5.5 furlongs?
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There is, it is just in a different place for those distances, under the stretch call. For races less than 6f the points of call and the fractions do not align.
For 5f races, the stretch call (one furlong from the finish) actually comes at exactly four furlongs so that is where we put the 4f pace figure. For 5.5f races, the stretch call comes at 4.5 furlongs, but the prior call comes at 3f, so we put it under the one that is the closest, the stretch call.
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12-18-2017, 12:59 AM
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Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 4,553
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Does TimeformUS average all races in a horses' past to arrive at the Early and Late Pace figures shown in the Daily Racing Form....or just for distances/ surfaces common to today's race running...? Or what..?
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12-18-2017, 09:51 AM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 46,834
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VigorsTheGrey
Does TimeformUS average all races in a horses' past to arrive at the Early and Late Pace figures shown in the Daily Racing Form....or just for distances/ surfaces common to today's race running...? Or what..?
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It looks at last five races but doesn't use them all. I don't exclude races from other distances/surfaces but the differences are factored in.
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12-19-2017, 12:20 AM
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Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 4,553
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
It looks at last five races but doesn't use them all. I don't exclude races from other distances/surfaces but the differences are factored in.
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Thanks cj, good to know...
Last edited by VigorsTheGrey; 12-19-2017 at 12:22 AM.
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12-19-2017, 12:08 PM
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#1331
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 10
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The day pass I purchased on Sat was still available to review on Sun, but won't let me in today or yesterday. Is this the norm? It would be helpful to be able to view other tracks I didn't have time to handicap before. Thanks
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12-19-2017, 12:10 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 46,834
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tennoel
The day pass I purchased on Sat was still available to review on Sun, but won't let me in today or yesterday. Is this the norm? It would be helpful to be able to view other tracks I didn't have time to handicap before. Thanks
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I'll check, but I think it expires after the next day.
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12-19-2017, 02:47 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: North Jersey
Posts: 207
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I've become a big fan of your numbers CJ especially the early/late ratings. Those things are absolute money in the right situation. Any update on when they'll be added to Formulator?
Also, if I'm not mistaken, I think I remembering reading that your pace ratings would be replacing the Moss ratings in Formulator. Any update on that front too? Thanks.
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12-19-2017, 08:39 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Dark Side of the Moon
Posts: 5,870
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tennoel
The day pass I purchased on Sat was still available to review on Sun, but won't let me in today or yesterday. Is this the norm? It would be helpful to be able to view other tracks I didn't have time to handicap before. Thanks
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Expires during the night...one of the benefits of the monthly pass is you can do what you suggest, though that lasts about 3 weeks.
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12-19-2017, 08:43 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 20,641
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike_412
I've become a big fan of your numbers CJ especially the early/late ratings. Those things are absolute money in the right situation. Any update on when they'll be added to Formulator?
Also, if I'm not mistaken, I think I remembering reading that your pace ratings would be replacing the Moss ratings in Formulator. Any update on that front too? Thanks.
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Hmmmmnnn.
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