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05-02-2012, 08:36 PM
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Derby (and Oaks) figures are now available here.
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05-02-2012, 09:12 PM
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A great tool as always. Thanks CJ!
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05-02-2012, 09:43 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Say goodnight, Hansen.
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05-02-2012, 10:29 PM
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Say goodnight, Hansen.
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Say goodnight, Bodemeister then too right?
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05-02-2012, 10:47 PM
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Same negative pattern with him.
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05-02-2012, 10:58 PM
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Thanks for the link. Comparing this year's Derby numbers to last year, this year's numbers are low across the board. Did something change in the process? I can't imagine this year's horses are that much worse. I must have missed something.
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05-02-2012, 11:00 PM
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New scale - not Beyer.
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05-02-2012, 11:04 PM
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New scale - not Beyer.
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Thanks. Figured it was something like that 
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05-02-2012, 11:25 PM
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Is it me or does Dullahan look pretty good?
Somebody smart please advise.
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05-03-2012, 08:00 AM
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Summer Applause certainly looks like a contender. 15-1? Is Battaglia on crack?
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05-03-2012, 08:15 AM
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Is it me or does Dullahan look pretty good?
Somebody smart please advise.
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His only big fig was on Poly. Toss.
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05-03-2012, 09:20 AM
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His only big fig was on Poly. Toss.
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I personally don't think it is that easy. He is an improving 3yo that had run his best race on dirt prior to the BG. He may be an underlay, but I consider him a contender.
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05-03-2012, 09:26 AM
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Am I crazy for liking Prospective a little bit? Strikes me as a very similar horse to Daddy Nose Best, only at twice the price. I don't think either win, but both have the potential to be the late-running closer that crashes the exotics after the race falls apart behind the winner.
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05-03-2012, 09:35 AM
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I personally don't think it is that easy. He is an improving 3yo that had run his best race on dirt prior to the BG. He may be an underlay, but I consider him a contender.
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Thanks for your input CJ. From my interpretation, Dullahan has: a)never taken a backward step, b)ran his two-year-old top >on dirt, c)is the fastest closer in a race that figures to be quick up-front.
Obviously, I'm not a subscriber of your figures. This is why I asked for a person "in-the-know" for their opinion. Thanks again.
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05-03-2012, 09:57 AM
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I personally don't think it is that easy. He is an improving 3yo that had run his best race on dirt prior to the BG. He may be an underlay, but I consider him a contender.
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Maybe figure wise but watching the replay of his race in the BC, he was never a factor and picked up the pieces for a clunk up 4th. In both his Kee wins, he benefitted from a blazing pace. His fig may not say so but his turf race at GP was probably his most visually impressive race. The winner was a loose on the lead wire winner and Dullahan made a big move 4 wide on the far turn. I loved him in the BG but I thought the pace suited him and that Poly is his best surface.
Gotta take a stand somewhere. If he's in the exacta, I will lose money.
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