@Dodgers can't say they were unaware of group's hostility toward Catholics/Christians

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by boxcar

I would also add to the above that no institution should provide the ripe environment for pedophilia or hebephilia, as the RCC has with its celibacy traditions.

I'm not sure why you think allowing for marriage would solve this problem.

It might encourage more heterosexual males without any deviant attractions to join the priesthood because celibacy wouldn't be an issue for them. But there would still be people in the priesthood committing these kind of crimes (as they do in other religions, public schools, childcare centers, Boy Scouts etc...) You are assuming this is limited to the RCC, but it's obviously not. It's just reported about the RCC more because it is so large the absolute numbers are much higher.

The first thing they need to do is better screening before allowing someone to become a priest. They need better background checks on relationships, sexual preferences, attractions, etc...

Then it's a law enforcement issue. If there is a claim of abuse, it must immediately be investigated, referred to law enforcement, and the priest can't be in contact with anyone underage until it's resolved.

I've been trying to avoid saying this outright, but when 40% of the priests are gay you can't put them in charge of teenage boys where they will often be alone together or on overnight retreats and trips. That's like putting a fox in the henhouse and expecting 100% control over the temptation. It's idiotic. It would be idiotic if it was heterosexual priests and teenage girls, but no one does the latter because it's idiotic. 99% of people can be trusted in situations like that, but that 1% percent that can do a LOT of damage. So you have to avoid it.

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Shouldn't they be taking a wrecking ball to Islam first? Aren't they still throwing gay people off of buildings in the name of Islam?

The same people up in arms over Christianity today...are the same people who were accusing Trump of being racist and bigoted because he was blocking people from coming into the USA with his "Muslim Travel Ban"...which, of course, wasn't a Muslim Travel ban...just like it's not a "Don't Say Gay" bill...but I digress...

If there was a transgender or homosexual organization like this Dodger group that was anti Muslim, the left would be calling it a right wing extremist group.

The Catholic bigotry and hate in his country runs wide and deep. IMO it's primarily because of the church's stance on homosexuality, abortion, birth control and influence in this country.

When/if our Muslim population grows to a significant enough percentage to start impacting policy on the left's favorite issues, you'll see a change. Of course, Muslims aren't pussies like US Catholics. They will start threatening back in ways that will keep the left under control.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

If there was a transgender or homosexual organization like this Dodger group that was anti Muslim, the left would be calling it a right wing extremist group.

The Catholic bigotry and hate in his country runs wide and deep. IMO it's primarily because of the church's stance on homosexuality, abortion, birth control and influence in this country.

When/if our Muslim population grows to a significant enough percentage to start impacting policy on the left's favorite issues, you'll see a change. Of course, Muslims aren't pussies like US Catholics. They will start threatening back in ways that will keep the left under control.

What about the Crusades, the Inquisition, the shameless history of the Popes all the way up to WWII, and now the widespread hushed-up child molestations? Read the story of Giordano Bruno and see what sort of cesspool the Catholic Church has been. And these most recent hushed-up horrendous crimes prove that the Church is as corrupt and dangerous in our time as it's ever been.

It isn't the Catholic Church's "philosophy" that its haters focus upon. It's the ocean of innocent blood that the Church has on its hands.

The Muslims follow Muhammad...and he was a hoodlum. What gall the Catholic Church must have to profess that it follows Jesus Christ.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

I'm not sure why you think allowing for marriage would solve this problem.

It might encourage more heterosexual males without any deviant attractions to join the priesthood because celibacy wouldn't be an issue for them. But there would still be people in the priesthood committing these kind of crimes (as they do in other religions, public schools, childcare centers, Boy Scouts etc...) You are assuming this is limited to the RCC, but it's obviously not. It's just reported about the RCC more because it is so large the absolute numbers are much higher.

The first thing they need to do is better screening before allowing someone to become a priest. They need better background checks on relationships, sexual preferences, attractions, etc...

Then it's a law enforcement issue. If there is a claim of abuse, it must immediately be investigated, referred to law enforcement, and the priest can't be in contact with anyone underage until it's resolved.

I've been trying to avoid saying this outright, but when 40% of the priests are gay you can't put them in charge of teenage boys where they will often be alone together or on overnight retreats and trips. That's like putting a fox in the henhouse and expecting 100% control over the temptation. It's idiotic. It would be idiotic if it was heterosexual priests and teenage girls, but no one does the latter because it's idiotic. 99% of people can be trusted in situations like that, but that 1% percent that can do a LOT of damage. So you have to avoid it.

What you have just said above goes to the heart of my point in my last post in that because the RCC has created this man-made rule about celibacy for elders/bishops/overseers/(priests) they have also created a dark moral/spiritual environment within the priesthood that leaves many priests very vulnerable to sexual temptations. I can certainly see the wisdom behind the apostle Paul's divinely inspired qualifications for gospel ministers.

Of course, these kinds of sins can occur virtually anywhere. Protestant denominations are not exempt; however, these denominations seem to be in the news a lot less than the Roman Church in terms of the number of exposes of these kinds of sexual abuses of minors, the vast majority of whom are boys. I attribute this fact largely to the biblical qualifications for candidates for gospel ministry.

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

What about the Crusades, the Inquisition, the shameless history of the Popes all the way up to WWII, and now the widespread hushed-up child molestations? Read the story of Giordano Bruno and see what sort of cesspool the Catholic Church has been. And these most recent hushed-up horrendous crimes prove that the Church is as corrupt and dangerous in our time as it's ever been.

I think every government and institution has been corrupt historically and remains so currently, but the Church has garnered more of the hatred in this country because of its policies on homosexuality, birth control, and abortion. Also, the larger the institution, the larger the numbers. So you get more headlines.

I try not to judge people of the past based on the standards of the present because we are all still learning. That's the kind of idiocy that causes the left to hate everything about Washington, Jefferson etc... because in some ways they were ignorant flawed men by today's standards but typical of their times.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

The first thing they need to do is better screening before allowing someone to become a priest. They need better background checks on relationships, sexual preferences, attractions, etc...

An ex best friend and a co worker I shared an office with for 3 years are on the sex offenders list, one was possession of child pornography, the other inappropriate sexual contact with someone under 14. The ex co worker someone told me about and I found out about the ex friend by Googling people from my past, which I do from time to time. I had no clue they were disgusting pedophiles. Not sure how background checks would help unless they had a record. Both those guys just seemed the type that overly judged women by their appearance, always mentioning women's body parts.

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

An ex best friend and a co worker I shared an office with for 3 years are on the sex offenders list, one was possession of child pornography, the other inappropriate sexual contact with someone under 14. The ex co worker someone told me about and I found out about the ex friend by Googling people from my past, which I do from time to time. I had no clue they were disgusting pedophiles. Not sure how background checks would help unless they had a record. Both those guys just seemed the type that overly judged women by their appearance, always mentioning women's body parts.

Life lessons are that you talk to women and not about them.

[porchy44]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

You say ONE WRONG WORD about Islam...and you end up like Salman Rushdie...or worse...and nobody really gives a shit...liberals turn a blind eye to it...

But here you have "sisters of indulgence" or whatever the fuck clever name they think they came up with, completely stomping all over and desecrating Christian icons and symbols and traditions...and it's just cool with the Dodgers.......

Anti-Catholicism is the last acceptable prejudice in America.

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by boxcar

No, what was THE factor is that the RCC ignored God's Word and created its own rules and regs. So...the results are no surprise. For your info, there is no text in the the bible that prohibits clergy from getting married to a woman.

Nobody says there is. That is a man made rule and it is a stupid one. As is the one that says a woman can’t be ordained.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by mostpost

Nobody says there is. That is a man made rule and it is a stupid one. As is the one that says a woman can’t be ordained.

Wow! Really? A "man-made rule"? Who would have ever thunk?

1 Tim 4:1-3
4:1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. 3 They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth.
NIV

By the way, is it still verbotten in the RCC to eat meat on Fridays? It was when I was a kid. Fridays was always fish day.

The ordination of women, on the other hand, is forbidden in scripture. So, suck it up, buttercup.

So...this whole prohibition against marriage for clergy is a doctrine straight out of hell! Not surprised. We can get a microscopic glimpse of the horrible damage this man-made rule had done to probably millions of kids over the centuries all over the world in the story below.

2,000 Children Sexually Abused by Illinois Catholic Clergy, Report Finds

https://www.theepochtimes.com/2000-c...Q%2F%2BIYng%3D

[Andy Asaro]

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[PaceAdvantage]

With all these people "standing up" for their personal beliefs, which seem kind of against the prevailing Democrat dogma, how is it Democrats continue to win election after election?

One has to wonder...

[azeri98]

Originally Posted by Andy Asaro

https://twitter.com/racetrackandy/st...71275604373504

Kershaw said he disagrees with the Dodgers supporting this group
https://theathletic.com/4564738/2023...w-pride-night/

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by azeri98

Kershaw said he disagrees with the Dodgers supporting this group
https://theathletic.com/4564738/2023...w-pride-night/

Drag queens dressed like nuns, how could anyone support that?

[azeri98]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

Drag queens dressed like nuns, how could anyone support that?

There are people out there that support anything. I mean they have groups that support pedophiles