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09-04-2022, 10:48 PM
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Nice! His family now gets to spend the money unencumbered
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If it is proven these were ill gotten gains his family won’t get a penny.
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09-05-2022, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Inner Dirt
Unfortunately most of the population does not believe in that Bible verse.
I am perfectly fine with it. I find nothing more ridiculous than putting an obvious murderer under 24-7 suicide watch while they await trial or during trial. I think they should provide then with nooses in their cells. Maybe if the tax payer money saved by suicides would be donated to feed the poor more people would get on board.
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I don't understand why most people don't believe that verse, since it is perfectly consistent with the God-ordained mandate of capital punishment for murder which was instituted before the Law of Moses and the prescribed Mosaic restitution for harm -- an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth and a life for a life.
Judas is the quintessential example of such a tormented soul after he betrayed Jesus.
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09-05-2022, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
If it is proven these were ill gotten gains his family won’t get a penny.
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That’s a civil issue. You cannot criminally prosecute a dead man. I’m sure he left a plan with his family . That money is gone as we speak
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09-05-2022, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
That’s a civil issue. You cannot criminally prosecute a dead man. I’m sure he left a plan with his family . That money is gone as we speak
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Hmm...Now, I wondering if there was a family member around to assist with the suicide? Plenty of motive. And the opportunity was there. What's the third ingredient necessary? 
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09-05-2022, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
That’s a civil issue. You cannot criminally prosecute a dead man. I’m sure he left a plan with his family . That money is gone as we speak
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He can’t be prosecuted obviously but the money can be clawed back.
I know a family who was left money made in the Madoff scam. It all went back.
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09-05-2022, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
He can’t be prosecuted obviously but the money can be clawed back.
I know a family who was left money made in the Madoff scam. It all went back.
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It all depends how well it is hidden and how hard they want to keep it, among a few other things.
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09-05-2022, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Inner Dirt
It all depends how well it is hidden and how hard they want to keep it, among a few other things.
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If the families collude to hide the funds they can be prosecuted as well.
A forensic accountant will find every nickel.
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09-05-2022, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
If the families collude to hide the funds they can be prosecuted as well.
A forensic accountant will find every nickel.
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Except if the "families collude" with the Russians.
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09-05-2022, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
If the families collude to hide the funds they can be prosecuted as well.
A forensic accountant will find every nickel.
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Possible, but real life is not TV. It is all about risk/reward.
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09-05-2022, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
He can’t be prosecuted obviously but the money can be clawed back.
I know a family who was left money made in the Madoff scam. It all went back.
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Madoff didn't off himself. Died about 10 years later . I think JR is right here
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09-05-2022, 05:12 PM
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Madoff didn't off himself. Died about 10 years later . I think JR is right here
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Not the point I was making.
Madoff had clients who illegally made whirlwind profits who subsequently died. Their heirs had to repay all profits. Only allowed to keep the principal.
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09-05-2022, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
He tripped on a pile of guilt.
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GOOD ONE! 
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09-05-2022, 09:31 PM
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Not the point I was making.
Madoff had clients who illegally made whirlwind profits who subsequently died. Their heirs had to repay all profits. Only allowed to keep the principal.
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The phrase “clawed back” is a common term for using forensic accountants and legal resources to chase the money down, then have a judge order re-payment from whomever benefitted from it.
It is pretty common. But there are very easy ways to hide it, if you’re able to plan. If this guy had the time, they won’t get much back. But Dave is in no way wrong, it will be the tactics used. I just think this guy was connected and probably built a layered plan to hide assets.
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05-01-2023, 11:02 PM
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Nobody learns the "Go Woke Go Broke" lesson...no matter how many times it happens...
(Note to self...don't piss off beer drinkers...sales down 26% and counting?)
Damn....
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05-01-2023, 11:27 PM
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I make it a point to talk to bartenders and owners. I specifically ask about Bud light. None of them are complaining about sales. They tell me that those who drink Bud Light are continuing to drink it. Nobody gives a ****.
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