Yep….take that vax

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by Elkchester Road

Where are the Vaccine Supporters??? I thought they would be all over this by now...shouting it down.

Thanks for the info, Jeff.

I found a bunch of them yesterday. Went to a medical facility, and when I started questioning the effectiveness of the Covid vaccine and why they are being pushed I got tag teamed. I heard it from two nurses and the nurse practitioner I saw last. I think in this state a nurse practitioner can do a lot.
She looks like a young Bridget Moynahan, but she has Hillary Clinton's personality. I see her every 3 months for check ups as I have a good list of health problems. She seemed to be extra nasty as I am sure the nurses I saw before her passed on my anti vax attitude. I asked her if I could get a prescription for gout medicine. She looked at my ankle and foot and said my ankle looked like a severe sprain or fracture and said I needed an X-ray. We went round and round on that and said she will send get me gout meds but
"when" it only clears up the foot, I need to come back.


We usually have issues but she was extra nasty this time. How the hell God could give a woman who looked like that Hillary's personality is beyond me.

[Karakorum Kabbage]

Originally Posted by Jeff P

Subtle update on Toxicity from the official gov.UK website.

Public Health England | Updated 16 August 2022
Summary of the Public Assessment Report for COVID-19 Vaccine Pfizer/BioNTech:
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...vid-19-vaccine

Scroll down towards the bottom of the page at the above link.

A little late for all of the pregnant and breast feeding women who were assured it was perfectly safe.

Expect more of this.

C'mon dude, you're spreading BS

https://apnews.com/article/fact-chec...y-477737215303

I can't wait to get the new updated booster this fall

Hey, who's that in line behind me? Dat you, PA?

[Jeff P]

Using the Wayback Machine I pulled up an archive dated Jan 04 2022.

The Toxicity conclusions section of the web page at the gov.UK site has had the same text since at least Jan 04 2022.

safe use of the vaccine in pregnant women cannot be provided at the present time

Women who are breastfeeding should also not be vaccinated

clickable thumbnail below

I stand corrected.


-jp

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[Elkchester Road]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

I found a bunch of them yesterday. Went to a medical facility, and when I started questioning the effectiveness of the Covid vaccine and why they are being pushed I got tag teamed. I heard it from two nurses and the nurse practitioner I saw last. I think in this state a nurse practitioner can do a lot.
She looks like a young Bridget Moynahan, but she has Hillary Clinton's personality. I see her every 3 months for check ups as I have a good list of health problems. She seemed to be extra nasty as I am sure the nurses I saw before her passed on my anti vax attitude. I asked her if I could get a prescription for gout medicine. She looked at my ankle and foot and said my ankle looked like a severe sprain or fracture and said I needed an X-ray. We went round and round on that and said she will send get me gout meds but
"when" it only clears up the foot, I need to come back.


We usually have issues but she was extra nasty this time. How the hell God could give a woman who looked like that Hillary's personality is beyond me.

Wow. I am sorry to hear about all of this. Sheesh.

[Elkchester Road]

Originally Posted by Karakorum Kabbage

C'mon dude, you're spreading BS

https://apnews.com/article/fact-chec...y-477737215303

I can't wait to get the new updated booster this fall

Hey, who's that in line behind me? Dat you, PA?

Get lost, Beta Troll. Reasonable People could care less about you getting any Booster. Your folks are the ones who absolutely OBSESS about what somebody else does.

[mhaney0423]

Originally Posted by Elkchester Road

Get lost, Beta Troll. Reasonable People could care less about you getting any Booster. Your folks are the ones who absolutely OBSESS about what somebody else does.

Can only speak from personal experience. I just got over Covid last week, and I had been Vaxxed and boosted 3x. I will honestly say I thank God I was vaxxed and boosted because I don't even wanna know how bad it may have been had I not been vaxxed and boosted. That stuff was no joke, sickest I have been in years.
As far as what anyone else does, that's their choice, I'm not for forcing anything on anyone, but if my opinion was asked, I'd highly recommend it.

M

[Jeff P]

The authors of the APNews Fact Check wrote:

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The guidance has not changed. Social media users are misrepresenting a section of a summary report about Pfizer’s shot that was published by the U.K.’s medical regulatory agency in late 2020 as part of the initial authorization process. The agency confirmed that subsequent, real-world data supports vaccinating people during pregnancies and while breastfeeding.

Re: the bolded sentence from the above quote written by the APNews Fact Checkers:

Real world data from recent studies like this one out of Germany shows the exact opposite.

Abstract

The present study estimates the burden of COVID-19 on mortality. The state-of-the-art method of actuarial science is used to estimate the expected number of all-cause deaths in 2020 to 2022, if there had been no pandemic. Then the number of observed all-cause deaths is compared with this expected number of all-cause deaths, yielding the excess mortality in Germany for the pandemic years 2020 to 2022.

The expected number of deaths is computed using the period life tables provided by the Federal Statistical Office of Germany and the longevity factors of the generation life table provided by the German Association of Actuaries. In addition, the expected number of deaths is computed for each month separately and compared to the observed number, yielding the monthly development of excess mortality. Finally, the increase in stillbirths in the years 2020 to 2022 is examined.

In 2020, the observed number of deaths was close to the expected number with respect to the empirical standard deviation. By contrast, in 2021, the observed number of deaths was two empirical standard deviations above the expected number. The high excess mortality in 2021 was almost entirely due to an increase in deaths in the age groups between 15 and 79 and started to accumulate only from April 2021 onwards. A similar mortality pattern was observed for stillbirths with an increase of about 11 percent in the second quarter of the year 2021.

Something must have happened in April 2021 that led to a sudden and sustained increase in mortality in the age groups below 80 years, although no such effects on mortality had been observed during the COVID-19 pandemic so far.

For context, Germany's vaccine rollout began in April 2021.

Imo, an 11% increase in stillbirths that just happens to coincide with vaccine rollout in a country the size of Germany is an alarming signal.



-jp

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[Elkchester Road]

Originally Posted by mhaney0423

Can only speak from personal experience. I just got over Covid last week, and I had been Vaxxed and boosted 3x. I will honestly say I thank God I was vaxxed and boosted because I don't even wanna know how bad it may have been had I not been vaxxed and boosted. That stuff was no joke, sickest I have been in years.
As far as what anyone else does, that's their choice, I'm not for forcing anything on anyone, but if my opinion was asked, I'd highly recommend it.

M

Good for you.

I had the Delta Variant. I felt really bad (Flu-like soreness and Fatigue) for 4 days...and was out of workout routine for 2 weeks.

I would tell somebody to make their own Medical decisions...and not be asking someone like me for my opinion on this. But...I don't roll like most People do. Care to elaborate on why you would want to share your opinion on something so Personal? What if things went bad for said Person because of it?

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by Elkchester Road

Wow. I am sorry to hear about all of this. Sheesh.

Thanks, but it was worth it. Not sure if it is the same everywhere, but here you cannot see a specialist without a referral, regardless of insurance coverage. The all powerful Nurse Ratched gave me a referral to a pain clinic, she said will give medication which a lot of places will not prescribe because of the opioid crisis. In exchange for that I had to agree to take a referral and get neurosurgical testing done because I had Covid overlapping a concussion.
Am I going to be a lab rat? I need pain meds to get me to be functional. Ice, Advil, pain patches and creams, physical therapy, none of it was ever much help. I used to get opioid pain meds, and muscle relaxers but got cut off, as many doctors stopped prescribing them for long term pain.


I think coming there with that foot was a blessing. The fact I was walking around with it without a cane or crutches and not even grimacing might have showed I don't want pain meds to get high. I had been hinting at getting a referral to a pain clinic that prescribed meds from her for over a year.

[classhandicapper]

We've been using an outdated vaccine all along. It was outdated when delta first emerged & became less useful with each new omicron variant but they kept pushing it.

IMO it's time to blow up the CDC/FDA/NIH etc..

We are depending the decision making of incompetents & liars.

[Elkchester Road]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

Thanks, but it was worth it. Not sure if it is the same everywhere, but here you cannot see a specialist without a referral, regardless of insurance coverage. The all powerful Nurse Ratched gave me a referral to a pain clinic, she said will give medication which a lot of places will not prescribe because of the opioid crisis. In exchange for that I had to agree to take a referral and get neurosurgical testing done because I had Covid overlapping a concussion.
Am I going to be a lab rat? I need pain meds to get me to be functional. Ice, Advil, pain patches and creams, physical therapy, none of it was ever much help. I used to get opioid pain meds, and muscle relaxers but got cut off, as many doctors stopped prescribing them for long term pain.


I think coming there with that foot was a blessing. The fact I was walking around with it without a cane or crutches and not even grimacing might have showed I don't want pain meds to get high. I had been hinting at getting a referral to a pain clinic that prescribed meds from her for over a year.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by mhaney0423

Can only speak from personal experience. I just got over Covid last week, and I had been Vaxxed and boosted 3x. I will honestly say I thank God I was vaxxed and boosted because I don't even wanna know how bad it may have been had I not been vaxxed and boosted. That stuff was no joke, sickest I have been in years.
As far as what anyone else does, that's their choice, I'm not for forcing anything on anyone, but if my opinion was asked, I'd highly recommend it.

M

So what you're really saying is...being vaxxed and TRIPLE boosted did absolutely NOTHING to prevent you from

a) getting infected in the first place

b) being the SICKEST you have been in YEARS from a VIRUS you were VAXXED against and TRIPLE BOOSTED

Yes, THANK GOD you got vaxxed and triple boosted...makes sense to you I guess

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Karakorum Kabbage

C'mon dude, you're spreading BS

https://apnews.com/article/fact-chec...y-477737215303

I can't wait to get the new updated booster this fall

Hey, who's that in line behind me? Dat you, PA?

I received two doses of the Pfizer vaccine. Zero boosters.

I will never put another COVID-related vaccine in my body ever again.

[Inner Dirt]

The science is always evolving, since quadruple vaxed people are getting sick maybe 5-6 or more are needed.

[davew]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

The science is always evolving, since quadruple vaxed people are getting sick maybe 5-6 or more are needed.

Some are saying it needs to be a fall booster every year like those that take flu shots.


I heard somewhere that 15% of vaccinated have some sort of issue related to mRNA vaccine up to a YEAR after injection. If it has been a year since your last shot, you are probably safe.