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Old 03-09-2012, 02:14 PM   #136
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It's not about picking winners. You can have a day where you hit five races and lose, and another day in which you have one winner and win.
Assuming you mean on one card, there is no chance I could ever have 5 winners and lose.
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I case you guys are missing it, Andy is crushing today
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Old 03-09-2012, 03:22 PM   #138
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I case you guys are missing it, Andy is crushing today
Yep, straight early double paid $78.50.
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Assuming you mean on one card, there is no chance I could ever have 5 winners and lose.
Two players, A & B, each bet $2 on every race of a ten-race card.

Player A has five winners with average price of $3.80.

Player B has one winner which paid $22.00.

Player B has a positive roi, Player A, negative.

It might not be possible for you, but, it is possible.
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Old 03-09-2012, 03:30 PM   #140
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Two players, A & B, each bet $2 on every race of a ten-race card.

Player A has five winners with average price of $3.80.

Player B has one winner which paid $22.00.

Player B has a positive roi, Player B, negative.

It might not be possible for you, but, it is possible.
I agree, I was talking about me. Of course it is possible. Player A is also going to be a loser in my opinion unless he is getting a stout rebate.
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The public handicapper who can show a profit for the long-term has not been born yet.

And if he ever does show up...my money says that he will have the sense to keep his ability hidden from the public eye...
This holds true in the stock market, as well.

Every Bull and Bear market has its "gurus" who called the exact top or bottom; however, their genius usually disappears by the next top/bottom.

The reason for this is that they're trying to solve equations with too many unknowns.
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Yep, straight early double paid $78.50.
Not a bad day for Serling.
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Old 03-09-2012, 04:03 PM   #143
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Yep, straight early double paid $78.50.
I mean this as a compliment.

I don't know how he came up with the winner of the 2nd.

To me the horse looked like a very slow router dropping back to a sprint where he would probably get outrun. He had gone off at 45-1, 80-1 and 25-1 for a trainer that hadn't won a race in several years.

It was a terrible field screaming out for a wake up horse, but at 6.60-1 I couldn't play that horse even with Andy's blessing. Great pick. I must have missed something.
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I mean this as a compliment.

I don't know how he came up with the winner of the 2nd.

To me the horse looked like a very slow router dropping back to a sprint where he would probably get outrun. He had gone off at 45-1, 80-1 and 25-1 for a trainer that hadn't won a race in several years.

It was a terrible field screaming out for a wake up horse, but at 6.60-1 I couldn't play that horse even with Andy's blessing. Great pick. I must have missed something.
I know you did. I hope you didn't think I took it some other way. I was just adding details.
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I know you did. I hope you didn't think I took it some other way. I was just adding details.
No at all.

I just wanted to make sure my analysis of the 2nd race was interpreted as a compliment to him and lack of "something" on my part rather than an insult at his selection.
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No at all.

I just wanted to make sure my analysis of the 2nd race was interpreted as a compliment to him and lack of "something" on my part rather than an insult at his selection.
If you are implying that Serling had a bad day, I disagree.
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If you are implying that Serling had a bad day, I disagree.
What?

I was the one that came here to point out he had the double cold.

Gee wiz, I know I'm not best communicator, but I thought I bent over backwards to be clear that I was impressed with his selection in the second race because I had tossed the horse.
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Not a bad day for Serling

I don't have the "database" on this, but it would seem that he is having great success looking for horses turning back in distance. Missed his picks today, unfortunately.


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What?

I was the one that came here to point out he had the double cold.

Gee wiz, I know I'm not best communicator, but I thought I bent over backwards to be clear that I was impressed with his selection in the second race because I had tossed the horse.
Serves you right for cutting down on the size of your posts lately...

Your usual clarity is not there anymore...
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The public handicapper who can show a profit for the long-term has not been born yet.
Define long-term.

Forever? For an entire meet? For a certain number of days?
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