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02-25-2014, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by iceknight
COngrats to Lure! He shouldve been a first ballot HOF, but I am glad he got it now.
A dream line up to see would have been Lure, War Chant, Wise Dan, Miesque, Da Hoss, Animal Kingdom,Royal Academy ...who else should be there?
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Cozzene,Da Hoss.
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02-25-2014, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by turninforhome10
I saw that and thought the exact same thing and got a little chill. Lure is my favorite horse of a all time. I have his halter from the Breeders Cup above my desk. He is definately deserving of the award. Surviving a 3yo campaign looking for the Derby and then Shug puts him on the weeds and Hello. My heart sunk when his stud career was hampered by fertility issues. When he won the 2nd Breeders cup from the 11 hole he stamped himself as one the best turf horses of the 20th Century IMHO, although I am bit biased.
But those yellow silks flashing home against the green of the SA lawn, brought back some good memories.
Congrats to LURE and his connections.
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I agree with you on Lure as one of the best up the 9 or 9.5 f .
No classic distance for him which is where Manila has the edge .
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02-25-2014, 09:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iceknight
COngrats to Lure! He shouldve been a first ballot HOF, but I am glad he got it now.
A dream line up to see would have been Lure, War Chant, Wise Dan, Miesque, Da Hoss, Animal Kingdom,Royal Academy ...who else should be there?
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Goldikova gotta be on that list
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02-25-2014, 10:00 PM
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The way Reload won on Saturday for Shug, it kind of reminded me of Lure.
Shug has some real good ones again, it is interesting how things cycle in this business, even when you have the best of best.
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02-26-2014, 12:02 AM
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Lure, War Chant, Wise Dan, Miesque, Da Hoss, Animal Kingdom,Royal Academy, Cozzene, Goldikova.
We need another 3-4 horses and then...
Who will be making the M/L for this ?
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02-26-2014, 01:36 AM
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Royal Heroine, Rock of Gibraltar and Steinlen are three milers missing that come to mind for me.
Add Val Royal and Six Perfections and you have a 14 horse field
Rider Choices * Stevens chose Da Hoss over War Chant leaving Bailey to choose War Chant over Six Perfections. Leaving Six Perfections open for Thierry Thulliez.
1. Royal Academy Vincent O'Brien Lester Piggot 15-1
2. Val Royal Julio Canani Jose Valdivia Jr. 30-1
3. Cozzene Jan Nerud Walter Guerra 25-1
4. Six Perfections Pascal Bary Thierry Thulliez 25-1
5. Wise Dan Charles Lopresti John Velazquez 4-1
6. Rock of Gibraltar Aiden O'Brien Mick Kinane 8-1
7. Miesque Francois Boutin Freddy Head 5-1
8. War Chant Neil Drysdale Jerry Bailey 12-1
9. Steinlen D. Wayne Lukas Jose Santos 15-1
10. Da Hoss Michael Dickinson Gary Stevens 6-1
11. Lure Shug McGaughey Mike Smith 7-2
12. Animal Kingdom Graham Motion Joel Rosario 15-1
13. Royal Heroine John Gosden Fernando Toro 20-1
14. Goldikova Freddy Head Olivier Peslier 10-1
Yes I did randomly draw the names out to determine Post Position
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02-26-2014, 01:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iceknight
Lure, War Chant, Wise Dan, Miesque, Da Hoss, Animal Kingdom,Royal Academy, Cozzene, Goldikova.
We need another 3-4 horses and then...
Who will be making the M/L for this ?
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Why not Kip Deville since we're looking at a mile .
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02-26-2014, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by maclr11
Royal Heroine, Rock of Gibraltar and Steinlen are three milers missing that come to mind for me.
Add Val Royal and Six Perfections and you have a 14 horse field
Rider Choices * Stevens chose Da Hoss over War Chant leaving Bailey to choose War Chant over Six Perfections. Leaving Six Perfections open for Thierry Thulliez.
1. Royal Academy Vincent O'Brien Lester Piggot 15-1
2. Val Royal Julio Canani Jose Valdivia Jr. 30-1
3. Cozzene Jan Nerud Walter Guerra 25-1
4. Six Perfections Pascal Bary Thierry Thulliez 25-1
5. Wise Dan Charles Lopresti John Velazquez 4-1
6. Rock of Gibraltar Aiden O'Brien Mick Kinane 8-1
7. Miesque Francois Boutin Freddy Head 5-1
8. War Chant Neil Drysdale Jerry Bailey 12-1
9. Steinlen D. Wayne Lukas Jose Santos 15-1
10. Da Hoss Michael Dickinson Gary Stevens 6-1
11. Lure Shug McGaughey Mike Smith 7-2
12. Animal Kingdom Graham Motion Joel Rosario 15-1
13. Royal Heroine John Gosden Fernando Toro 20-1
14. Goldikova Freddy Head Olivier Peslier 10-1
Yes I did randomly draw the names out to determine Post Position
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There are a few horses I would bet in that field at those prices.
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02-26-2014, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by nijinski
I agree with you on Lure as one of the best up the 9 or 9.5 f .
No classic distance for him which is where Manila has the edge .
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You are correct. He is one of the best turf milers. No confusion, as Lure did not go much longer than 8-9 furlongs.
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02-26-2014, 02:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maclr11
Royal Heroine, Rock of Gibraltar and Steinlen are three milers missing that come to mind for me.
Add Val Royal and Six Perfections and you have a 14 horse field
Rider Choices * Stevens chose Da Hoss over War Chant leaving Bailey to choose War Chant over Six Perfections. Leaving Six Perfections open for Thierry Thulliez.
1. Royal Academy Vincent O'Brien Lester Piggot 15-1
2. Val Royal Julio Canani Jose Valdivia Jr. 30-1
3. Cozzene Jan Nerud Walter Guerra 25-1
4. Six Perfections Pascal Bary Thierry Thulliez 25-1
5. Wise Dan Charles Lopresti John Velazquez 4-1
6. Rock of Gibraltar Aiden O'Brien Mick Kinane 8-1
7. Miesque Francois Boutin Freddy Head 5-1
8. War Chant Neil Drysdale Jerry Bailey 12-1
9. Steinlen D. Wayne Lukas Jose Santos 15-1
10. Da Hoss Michael Dickinson Gary Stevens 6-1
11. Lure Shug McGaughey Mike Smith 7-2
12. Animal Kingdom Graham Motion Joel Rosario 15-1
13. Royal Heroine John Gosden Fernando Toro 20-1
14. Goldikova Freddy Head Olivier Peslier 10-1
Yes I did randomly draw the names out to determine Post Position
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Wow what a field, if only we had a time machine now with room to transport horses without spooking them!!
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02-26-2014, 10:32 PM
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Great thread.
How about a late nomination for the dream race.
Ridgewood Pearl.
In 1995 she did something remarkable.
As a 3yo Filly, she won 4 Group/Grade 1 races in 4 countries:
ENGLAND
IRELAND
FRANCE
U.S.A.......Breeders Cup Mile against older males.
She retired 6 for 8 lifetime.
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02-26-2014, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by taxicab
Great thread.
How about a late nomination for the dream race.
Ridgewood Pearl.
In 1995 ....
U.S.A.......Breeders Cup Mile against older males.
She retired 6 for 8 lifetime.
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And JP Murtagh who rode her, just announced retirement!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ6viZtSGWg
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