increase at Oaklawn this year

[lamboguy]

http://www.horseracingnation.com/new...in_Handle_123#

this increase in handle came from the ontrack show pools because they lowered the takeout and wound up with less breakage as well. interesting.

they also have the luxury of large field sizes and their races are pretty interesting with all the places that the horses are coming from.

[Jeff P]

An increase in on track business because of reduced takeout on the show pool.

Imagine that.


-jp

.

[green80]

Hopefully some of the other tracks will follow Oaklawns lead.

[Augenj]

Originally Posted by Jeff P

An increase in on track business because of reduced takeout on the show pool.

Imagine that.


-jp

.

The California Horse Racing Board

[dilanesp]

Originally Posted by Jeff P

An increase in on track business because of reduced takeout on the show pool.

Imagine that.


-jp

.

What are you talking about? The handle clearly increased because they hired a better announcer.

[lamboguy]

Originally Posted by dilanesp

What are you talking about? The handle clearly increased because they hired a better announcer.

no doubt Vic had something to do with the increase, but the track management were the smart ones to hire him and come up with that show gimmick and probably more that we don't know about.

[HuggingTheRail]

Originally Posted by dilanesp

What are you talking about? The handle clearly increased because they hired a better announcer.

Sharp post

[Jeff P]

That was actually pretty funny.

-jp

.

[Nitro]

Originally Posted by lamboguy

http://www.horseracingnation.com/new...in_Handle_123#

this increase in handle came from the ontrack show pools because they lowered the takeout and wound up with less breakage as well. interesting.

they also have the luxury of large field sizes and their races are pretty interesting with all the places that the horses are coming from.

Yes, very interesting!
I had wondered why the developer of the tote analysis I fervently use had revised the Oaklawn program. Now it’s no a longer a mystery as to why it provided so many valued results. It was certainly on target for the majority of races on specific days f the week.

Originally Posted by dilanesp

What are you talking about? The handle clearly increased because they hired a better announcer.

No doubt about it!

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by lamboguy

no doubt Vic had something to do with the increase, but the track management were the smart ones to hire him and come up with that show gimmick and probably more that we don't know about.

Hate to break it to you, but he had nothing to do with it.

[SoCalCircuit]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Hate to break it to you, but he had nothing to do with it.

What are you talking about? All Vic's betting on the live races while working has to be the source of the increase.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by SoCalCircuit

What are you talking about? All Vic's betting on the live races while working has to be the source of the increase.

Well done.

[castaway01]

The show bet bonus is actually a pretty clever idea by Oaklawn. From what I read, the take for on-track show bets went from about 17% to 10% (Oaklawn would not disclose the exact formula) and handle on show bets went up 34%. Since it was only for on-track bettors, Oaklawn didn't have to deal with the ADWs taking almost all of the profit and/or complaining about their income going down (since they make takeout minus signal fee percentage). It would only really work at places like Keeneland or Saratoga that have actual human beings at a racetrack, but it's a cool idea that they'll hopefully expand in logical ways (i.e., to other pools).

[dilanesp]

Originally Posted by castaway01

The show bet bonus is actually a pretty clever idea by Oaklawn. From what I read, the take for on-track show bets went from about 17% to 10% (Oaklawn would not disclose the exact formula) and handle on show bets went up 34%. Since it was only for on-track bettors, Oaklawn didn't have to deal with the ADWs taking almost all of the profit and/or complaining about their income going down (since they make takeout minus signal fee percentage). It would only really work at places like Keeneland or Saratoga that have actual human beings at a racetrack, but it's a cool idea that they'll hopefully expand in logical ways (i.e., to other pools).

Of course racetracks should reward live customers. They buy food, parking, admission, programs, and stuff at the gift shop. The way it stands now, with rebate shops offering the lowest takeout, is perverse.

[thespaah]

Imagine the increase in handle if Oaklawn( a rather ironic name) installed a turf course