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01-05-2019, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
Again, since you ignored me, why hopefully? You being these horses?
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I assume you meant betting these horses
What’s it to you what I bet
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01-06-2019, 01:35 PM
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#77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
I assume you meant betting these horses
What’s it to you what I bet
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I just wondered since you said "hopefully one will pop" or something to that effect. It is a betting game after all.
I think these type of things you post are classic examples of back fitting data and almost never work going forward.
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01-06-2019, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TheOracle
I missed Persaud's barn for Aqueduct's first half they went 2 for 17 but you made 38% on your money per $2 win bet
I guess you just keep playing anything out of this barn to win until they pop for a big price!!!
Let's keep an eye on Persaud's barn for Aqueduct's 2nd half of the season!!!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
I just wondered since you said "hopefully one will pop" or something to that effect. It is a betting game after all.
I think these type of things you post are classic examples of back fitting data and almost never work going forward.
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Ok, but just to let you know I didn't back fit any data he had 17 starts with 2 wins 3 places and 1 show at Aqueduct from November 2nd to December 2nd, 2018 which is what I showed
I didn't back fit anything, to me it didn't seem like there was any rhyme or reason as to why his horses win so I just said maybe the ones he's entered for 2019 will pop for a price
I still don't see how this relates to what I bet
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01-06-2019, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TheOracle
Ok, but just to let you know I didn't back fit any data he had 17 starts with 2 wins 3 places and 1 show at Aqueduct from November 2nd to December 2nd, 2018 which is what I showed
I didn't back fit anything, to me it didn't seem like there was any rhyme or reason as to why his horses win so I just said maybe the ones he's entered for 2019 will pop for a price
I still don't see how this relates to what I bet
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This is exactly what back fitting is...finding patterns from the past and hoping they will continue in the future. Good luck with it.
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01-06-2019, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
This is exactly what back fitting is...finding patterns from the past and hoping they will continue in the future. Good luck with it.
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Well for that matter you could say that for everything. People who play horses that won in the past bet them again hoping they win in the future
Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't so using your logic that applies to almost everyone
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01-06-2019, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TheOracle
Well for that matter you could say that for everything. People who play horses that won in the past bet them again hoping they win in the future
Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't so using your logic that applies to almost everyone
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There are ways to do it better. For example, you split the samples and test each separately. But you need big sample size for that.
I'm not trying to be a jerk here, I've got a lot of experience with this stuff. There is something to be said for catching a trainer when he is hot and using short term trends, but the posts I see you make are almost all at the too late stage. Just my opinion.
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01-11-2019, 09:10 PM
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Persaud got a winner today but he only paid $10.60 across the board his coupled entry in the 8th race at Aqueduct was off the board
Let's continue to keep an eye on his barn hopefully he'll get one to hit for a price across the board!!!
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01-12-2019, 10:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
Persaud got a winner today but he only paid $10.60 across the board his coupled entry in the 8th race at Aqueduct was off the board
Let's continue to keep an eye on his barn hopefully he'll get one to hit for a price across the board!!!
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Persaud has these today at Aqueduct
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1 01-12-2019 7th race 10 Felix in Fabula (KY) Allowance One Mile R Persaud 30/1# Dirt
2 01-12-2019 9th race 2 Flat Out Jayvien (NY) Maiden Claiming One Mile R Persaud 12/1# Dirt
Let's see if he can hit the board today hopefully one of these will come through at a price!!!
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01-12-2019, 09:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
Persaud has these today at Aqueduct
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pick01-12-20191 01-12-2019 7th race 10 Felix in Fabula (KY) Allowance One Mile R Persaud 30/1# Dirt
pick01-12-20192 01-12-2019 9th race 2 Flat Out Jayvien (NY) Maiden Claiming One Mile R Persaud 12/1# Dirt
Let's see if he can hit the board today hopefully one of these will come through at a price!!!
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Persaud was off the board today with these
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res01-12-20191 01-12-2019 7th race 10 Felix in Fabula (KY) Allowance One Mile R Persaud 30/1# Dirt Fast 0.0 0.0 0.0
res01-12-20192 01-12-2019 9th race 2 Flat Out Jayvien (NY) Maiden Claiming One Mile R Persaud 12/1# Dirt Fast 0.0 0.0 0.0
Let’s continue to watch his barn at Aqueduct!!!
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01-13-2019, 10:30 AM
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Persaud has this today at Aqueduct
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pick01-13-20191 01-13-2019 8th race 7 Buss the Bell (NY) Claiming Six Furlongs R Persaud 15/1# Dirt
Let's see if he can hit the board with this one at a price!!!
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01-13-2019, 08:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
Persaud has this today at Aqueduct
Code:
pick01-13-20191 01-13-2019 8th race 7 Buss the Bell (NY) Claiming Six Furlongs R Persaud 15/1# Dirt
Let's see if he can hit the board with this one at a price!!!
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Persaud seems to have fourthitis as #2 Flat Out Jayvien from yesterday and #7 Buss the Bell finished in 4th place
Let's continue to watch the Persaud barn to see if one of them pops for a price across the board!!!
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01-18-2019, 02:24 PM
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The Persaud watch continues he has this in the 5th race today at Aqueduct!!!
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pick01-18-20191 01-18-2019 5th race 1 Sarahs Rainbow (NY) Maiden Claiming One Mile R Persaud 30/1# Dirt
Let's see if he can hit the board today at a price and over come the fourthitis!!!
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01-18-2019, 06:47 PM
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Randi continues to burn money. I'm sure he'll hit one at 20-1 before the meet is over, but if you actually bet him lately you'd be broke before you got that 20-1 winner in.
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01-18-2019, 10:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
The Persaud watch continues he has this in the 5th race today at Aqueduct!!!
Code:
pick01-18-20191 01-18-2019 5th race 1 Sarahs Rainbow (NY) Maiden Claiming One Mile R Persaud 30/1# Dirt
Let's see if he can hit the board today at a price and over come the fourthitis!!!
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Persaud was off the board again today
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1 01-18-2019 3rd race 6 Flat Out Jayvien (NY) Maiden Claiming Six Furlongs R Persaud 15/1# Dirt Fast 0.0 0.0 0.0
res01-18-20192 01-18-2019 5th race 1 Sarahs Rainbow (NY) Maiden Claiming One Mile R Persaud 30/1# Dirt Fast 0.0 0.0 0.0
Let’s continue to watch his barn at Aqueduct!!!
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01-19-2019, 11:57 AM
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The Persaud watch continues today at Aqueduct!!!
He has this today in the 7th
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pick01-19-20191 01-19-2019 7th race 4 Felix in Fabula (KY) Claiming Six Furlongs R Persaud 10/1# Dirt
Can Persaud get a win before the government stops it’s shutdown? Well that’s another side bet!!!
Let’s see if he can get this one to hit the board today at a price at Aqueduct much less win!!!
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