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Old 09-15-2016, 12:46 PM   #1
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TOTE BOARD ANALYSIS

I NOW HAVE 181 FACTOR SIZED SHOW BETS RETURNING A 0.99 ROI
IT SEEMS THE BEST PERFORMING BET SIZE IS THE OLD RELIABLE "FACTOR"
IT RETURNES A 0.99 ROI COMPARED TO A FLAT BET ROI OF 0.92, A 108% INCREASE



I ALSO HAVE 566 FACTOR SIZED WIN BETS RETURNING A 0.96 ROI COMPARED TO A FLAT BET ROI OF 0.82, A 117% INCREASE


THESE ARE LIVE PLAYS,GENERATED ABOUT 2 TO 3 MINUETS TO POST TIME.

IF ANYONE HAS A WIN BET ROI OF 0.95 ROI TO 0.99 AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF MY FACTOR BET SIZE CAN IMPROVE THEIR RESULTS CONTACT ME HERE.



ps. these plays are limited to mostly post time favorites
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Sounds like something like this would be pretty useful if you were getting a nice rebate.
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Old 09-15-2016, 03:50 PM   #3
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based on nyra rewards

"Points expire one year from the date they were earned on a first in, first out basis. Points are not earned for any bets resulting in a minimum $2.10 payout"

a deal breaker
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Old 09-16-2016, 05:35 AM   #4
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I NOW HAVE 181 FACTOR SIZED SHOW BETS RETURNING A 0.99 ROI
IT SEEMS THE BEST PERFORMING BET SIZE IS THE OLD RELIABLE "FACTOR"
IT RETURNES A 0.99 ROI COMPARED TO A FLAT BET ROI OF 0.92, A 108% INCREASE



I ALSO HAVE 566 FACTOR SIZED WIN BETS RETURNING A 0.96 ROI COMPARED TO A FLAT BET ROI OF 0.82, A 117% INCREASE


THESE ARE LIVE PLAYS,GENERATED ABOUT 2 TO 3 MINUETS TO POST TIME.

IF ANYONE HAS A WIN BET ROI OF 0.95 ROI TO 0.99 AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF MY FACTOR BET SIZE CAN IMPROVE THEIR RESULTS CONTACT ME HERE.



ps. these plays are limited to mostly post time favorites
Is this ROI expectation based on a reasonable test sample? I can't help but remember when you reported that you had uncovered a profitable baccarat betting system...
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Old 09-16-2016, 07:05 AM   #5
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I know your software is home grown---I have a Bris data program that nails just under a $1.00 ROI total to include every track in the country all year long (AVGS--OF COURSE)

I'm thinking I could forward the plays "live"---you test as long as you feel necessary--and see if we have something--NCG
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Is this ROI expectation based on a reasonable test sample? I can't help but remember when you reported that you had uncovered a profitable baccarat betting system...
I would like to see the results over the next 500 plays. Guys who write about this kind of stuff (efficiency of horse racing markets) study thousands of races.

regarding my baccarat betting system, I still find it interesting,
http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...light=baccarat
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I know your software is home grown---I have a Bris data program that nails just under a $1.00 ROI total to include every track in the country all year long (AVGS--OF COURSE)

I'm thinking I could forward the plays "live"---you test as long as you feel necessary--and see if we have something--NCG

that sounds like an interesting offer. I would love to work with it, especially when it picks the favorite, which is where much of my picks are,

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IT MAY BE THAT THE MOST PROFITABLE WPS PLAYS OCCURR WHEN THE FACTOR IS <=11 AND THE BET SIZE IS =1/FACTOR

IN ONE DATA BASE OF 191 PLAYS, THAT OCURRS 48 TIMES
WIN %=33%
PLACE %= 59%
SHOW % = 71%

THE SUM OF EACH OF THE WPS PLAYS HOVER AROUND THE 1.00 ROI
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What is "THE FACTOR"?
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What is "THE FACTOR"?
its a formula I devised using the wps and exacta tote board data.
cannot say more than that, else I let the genie out of the lamp
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Old 09-18-2016, 12:38 PM   #11
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571 races flat bet win roi = 0.84
factor bet size win roi =0.96

here is a new sweet spot in the data

106 races where the factor>=100
flat bet roi =0.95
factor bet roi =1.02

I would like to see the roi's evenly distributed over segmented groups of factor size, or a slight increase in roi's as the factor size increases.
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here is the good news and the bad

factor size range 90 to 99, 0.89 flat bet roi, 0.87 roi 15 races
100 to 199 0.68, 0.67, 44 races
200 to 299 1.14, 1.15, 27 races
300 to 301 1.28, 1.24 , 15 races
400 (cap size) 1.04, 1.04, 20 races
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here is the good news and the bad

factor size range 90 to 99, 0.89 flat bet roi, 0.87 roi 15 races
100 to 199 0.68, 0.67, 44 races
200 to 299 1.14, 1.15, 27 races
300 to 301 1.28, 1.24 , 15 races
400 (cap size) 1.04, 1.04, 20 races

44 wins in 62 races = 71% winners
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I found wants when I played these favorites like this that if you actually had kept the races and don't just rely on the software you can move up your number tremendously. Often times your software will spit out horses that are hopelessly in Speed duels ect ect
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I found wants when I played these favorites like this that if you actually had kept the races and don't just rely on the software you can move up your number tremendously. Often times your software will spit out horses that are hopelessly in Speed duels ect ect
Hi. I don't handicap the horses, I'm handicapping the public's $$ in the
straight and exacta pools.
after over 40 years, I have found out I'm not a very good handicapper
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