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Old 01-25-2019, 09:57 AM   #61
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Which one of these would you like me to torpedo first?

Iraq or Iran?

I gave you the IR spectrum... its not a left/right thing.
Again, RIF fundamental.
YOU made a general statement that foreign policy is not left/right then offered a nothing reply to support it.

Tackle your original statement.
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:03 AM   #62
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Again, RIF fundamental.
YOU made a general statement that foreign policy is not left/right then offered a nothing reply to support it.

Tackle your original statement.
Trump is a isolationist... is he on the right?

Reagan was a internationalist/interventionist... is he on the left?

Obama 1 was interventionist and Obama 2 was internationalist.

Bush was a interventionist.

Hillary is a interventionist.

Clinton/GHWB were predominantly internationalists/interventionists.

Foreign policy doesn't fit into your convenient left/right box... Remember when Hillary and John McCain were considered hawks by you? Its because they are.

Don't hate on me because you aren't smart enough to process this.

Kissinger and Nixon would be considered centrists... possibly even center-left domestic politicians today... tell me they were isolationists...

Its the epidemic of the partisan to opine on stuff they know nothing about.
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:27 AM   #63
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Policy is left and right.
The people may have ideologies, but they operate as a party, a left or a right party. Are you saying Trump and Hillary agree on foreign policy decisions?
Trump, an isolationist, bombed Syria.
IS trying to open relations with NOKO.

How many democrats supported the Surge? or the whole war for that matter?
So many dems were all for getting rid of SH UNTIL W actually did it. PA has the video. Remember?

Not my fault if your not smart enough know what smart is.
Just because you think are smart doesn't make it so.

BELIEFS are ideology - politics is real world. And politics is left/right.
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:35 AM   #64
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:36 AM   #65
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Domestic Policy is left and right.
FTFY

I've also seen absolutely nothing to refute this...

You don't like politicians who are domestically left. Therefore you can't separate their foreign policy from your domestic policy bias.

Its not my fault you can't parse those issues.

Don't @ me.
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:42 AM   #66
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Policy is left and right.
The people may have ideologies, but they operate as a party, a left or a right party. Are you saying Trump and Hillary agree on foreign policy decisions?
Trump, an isolationist, bombed Syria.
IS trying to open relations with NOKO.

How many democrats supported the Surge? or the whole war for that matter?
So many dems were all for getting rid of SH UNTIL W actually did it. PA has the video. Remember?

Not my fault if your not smart enough know what smart is.
Just because you think are smart doesn't make it so.

BELIEFS are ideology - politics is real world. And politics is left/right.
No, Hillary is an interventionist and Trump a isolationist. Hillary was going to get us into a war with Russia... you said so yourself.

And he's withdrawn against the advice of his senior cabinet advisor's what...? 3 times now? Trump is a isolationist. He admits as much.

So he can "bring the troops home"... isolationist. Cancels joint exercises... isolationist.

Barack Obama... when he did it... twice?

Over half in the House and the Senate.

Stop while you're behind Tom.

You don't like Evul Libruls... that's cool... I'm not a big fan either... you just aren't able to separate domestic from foreign... I am.
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:57 AM   #67
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FTFY

I've also seen absolutely nothing to refute this...

You don't like politicians who are domestically left. Therefore you can't separate their foreign policy from your domestic policy bias.

Its not my fault you can't parse those issues.

Don't @ me.
And YOU have not offered to PROVE this.
YOU listed people's ideologies, but WHAT foreign policies did they support?
You can't separate foreign policy from ideology.

Has nothing to do with who I like or not - it is, in spite of Clocker's nonsbustial drive by - reality. People serve party, not ideology. I understand a difference between foreign and domestic. BOTH are supported along party lines for the most part.

@ ya
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Wow.
C'mon. That was funny.
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I'm not.

Whats funny though is how convinced and bought into this you are... because you need it to be... because anything outside of right/evul libs is too complex for you.
Not any more than you are bought into your own agenda.
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Not any more than you are bought into your own agenda.
Bought into the fact people on both sides of the aisle can have foreign policy victories?

That my knee jerk reaction isn't dependent on what party they represent?

Yeah it's a pretty controversial position.
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Knee jerk is overstating it.
One word would suffice.

Of course both side have various opinions, just like many democrat do not agree that a wall is immoral or not needed, BUT, they vote as they are supposed to vote. Against Trump.
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While properly handling one avenue we turn around and make the mistake of announcing sanctions in the next move.

Instead of sanctions we should be rolling in humanitarian aid.

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You would have made things so much easier for the Nazis - people like YOU were what they counted on.
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You would have made things so much easier for the Nazis - people like YOU were what they counted on.
People like me?

I don't really have a problem with discriminating based on skin color, nationality, religion, etc. etc.

YOU on the other hand...

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So, the Sorry Arabians are not the GOOD muslims, huh?
Anyone tell the Imama Obama?
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Mines.
Worked in WWII.
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Got you riled up now huh?
Post away, Brainiac.....you just show your ignorance.
5th grade response - all taken out of context and zero connection to race or religion.

Your usual little hissy fits.
Bad boi.
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