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Originally Posted by mountainman
Atrocious?? That's easy to say-until you have to predict the odds several days in advance, often derived from skeletal pp's. And, again, you're generalizing about professional odds- makers and proclaiming yourself an expert. And you have no stats to back up your criticism of professional makers.
And I will reiterate, with all respect, sir, guys like you can cherry pick accurate predictions, without taking flack when your'e wrong. I don't have that luxury.
btw, an objective study ranked me the 12th most accurate track odds-maker in America.
Might I ask what your credentials are, sir?? In this thread, your proof and support of your own contentions seems to consist of demanding that posters believe whatever you say, and assuring doubters that someday they will reach your level of supreme enlightenment. But I don't think this board works like that.
Also, you have misconstrued my post. I wasn't questioning your expertise , in particular, or even doubting the veracity of your claims. I was simply putting my two cents in.
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—- didn’t say it was easy to do, even if ur deriving it from
Skeletal pps. ( but it is still ur job) and the mistakes
That are set forth on a daily basis are too big too ignore.
I will repeat nobody is perfect and we all draw from past experience
To lay down what’ve believe will be the best material.
My beef is u ( the linesmaker)are suppose to be the one
With insider knowledge of ur specific circuit . u have to provide insight
For the public that they necessarily might not be aware of so they
Can be better prepared beforehand to make a subjective observation on the
Race itself.
The last time I checked it is ur job to predict how the public will
Ultimately bet the race and not to select the odds
Based on your personal interpretation
But with the wild swings of ml prices daily , what is the
Avg player suppose to do. You give them hope that
A line will be 10-1 when in reality it’s more like a 6-5 shot
So there lies the dilemma.
I am not demanding anything of anyone
And not trying to convince doubters of reaching
My state of enlightment so u say. I am not better
Than anyone else just offering the truth within the lines
and I am trying
To give people a heads up on mistakes that
Are just too big too ignore and let them
Make their own conclusions. And yes in this field I am
An expert ( you can do what you want with that comment)
I offer a solution. If you say you are time restricted
And really don’t have the ammunition you would have had
Let’s say 24 hours before race day.
Then do a rewrite of ur lines the day before
And post them on ur website or twitter account
, let horseplayers know where u have made improvements
On some of the contenders and let the players sit
With it. If not u run the danger of continuing old archaic
Ways of seeing things an no natural progression takes place
As for my credentials well let’s just say
That there is a reason I have not posted
On this form since inception
I had to figure out what the real truth was because
Everything that was posted was smoke and mirrors.
( and not the fault of the posters they are just following
Suit what they have been taught.
In order to truly see u have to unlearn
Everything u have learnt.
Mm
By the way mountain I offer a truce
And please skim the pps on
Parx race 8#2(8-1)
And you tell me if any linesmaker on the planet
Should ever price this horse that high
How does this happen
My line says 8/5
So now u can tear it up all u want
How the public bets not sure to be frank but no way
He rises above 3-1
My opinion
