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View Poll Results: 2019 Handicapping Software Poll!
Value Capper 122 21.18%
Black Magic 95 16.49%
HSH 97 16.84%
RDSS 109 18.92%
JCapper 97 16.84%
HTR 127 22.05%
Betmix 114 19.79%
Nocal Greg Programs 125 21.70%
Handifast 94 16.32%
All Data Free 91 15.80%
Homegrown 126 21.88%
Old Sartin Programs 101 17.53%
Other Not Listed 205 35.59%
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Old 10-30-2019, 01:55 PM   #121
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So, you've tried all the software from major vendors, diligently used the programs for at least six months, and have fairly and objectively evaluated them, yes? NO????? Well, what makes you qualified to make your comments then? You have some agenda concerning Dave/HSH and his alleged "hokem"?

You're right. You woke me up. You probably should have let me continue with my naps. I get crankier and crustier without them.
Mission accomplished.
Agenda - no- just pointed out his claim of most powerful software is just that, a claim.
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Old 10-30-2019, 01:58 PM   #122
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Maybe you should know something about a person before you try to question their credibility.

Fist off, have you ever USED the program?
If not, I suggest your opinion is of NO value here.
Yep, used it extensively. Powerful program - yep, lots of features - yep, most powerful - who knows.
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Old 10-30-2019, 02:00 PM   #123
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I hate it when people denigrate people like Dave. Not many good guys left in this game, so don't denigrate one of the good ones when you don't know what you're talking about!
Agree, not good to attack when uninformed.
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Old 10-30-2019, 02:06 PM   #124
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Mission accomplished.
Agenda - no- just pointed out his claim of most powerful software is just that, a claim.
Do you actually use software or is it just a claim? Do you travel a lot or is it just a claim? Do you contribute anything of use here or is it just a claim? I'm done with you. Troll away...
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Old 10-30-2019, 02:43 PM   #125
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I hate it when people denigrate people like Dave. Not many good guys left in this game, so don't denigrate one of the good ones when you don't know what you're talking about!

Jealousy comes in many flavors doesn't it?
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Old 10-31-2019, 12:30 AM   #126
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Do you actually use software or is it just a claim? Do you travel a lot or is it just a claim? Do you contribute anything of use here or is it just a claim? I'm done with you. Troll away...
There you go, anybody can claim anything. You finally hit it but don't see it - grab the digitalis, you'll be ok.
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Old 10-31-2019, 12:58 AM   #127
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There you go, anybody can claim anything. You finally hit it but don't see it - grab the digitalis, you'll be ok.
Have you ever used the software?
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Old 10-31-2019, 06:04 PM   #128
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Have you ever used the software?
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Old 11-01-2019, 10:30 AM   #129
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Have been using Bill Whites info for about 4 months.....excellent
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Old 11-03-2019, 12:10 AM   #130
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Tough to prove or disprove.
I've proven it multiple times over the past couple of years.

PS. Including today...where I did a public run of Dave's latest way to handicap with HSH...

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...d.php?t=155078

My posted wagers made just about $400 in profit. ROI was somewhere between 30-40%
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Old 11-03-2019, 12:55 AM   #131
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In the year I had HSH , I can finally say that I got my play down to where I want it.....It took many hours of testing and bombarding Dave with questions.

The proof came today Breeders Cup Day Nov 2.....

Of the 12 race card , I played 11 .....( I didn't play the 4 horse field)

Of the 11 , I hit 8 winning bets ( 2 races I came in 2nd )

HSH

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P.S.- All the races were posted on Daves FaceBook page

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Old 11-03-2019, 07:41 AM   #132
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Nice

Job mike. May have to investigate HSH
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Old 11-03-2019, 08:50 AM   #133
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Job mike. May have to investigate HSH
Thxs Bob


To further this....things climbed to a higher level when I found that HSH was capable to produce Excel Reports ...that is where I got to tweak things.
The program is 20 years old, there are so many facets to it...even Dave forgot.
I worked on stuff that was forgotten and got it to work from all my testing.
Recently , before my daily play like from BC, I developed what I call is my Maiden Report.....Its Excel driven and it gives me all Firsters and 1 time starters that have a chance to win.....to do this in the program was to run every race ....you can guess how long that must take....but my report gets you all the plays in less than 10 mins...every one of them.....over the past 2 weeks , I would say the ROI is in the 10-20% range with minimal effort...
I still have ideas rolling around in my head...I just hope I dont drop dead

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Old 11-03-2019, 10:29 AM   #134
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Mike is the epitome of the successful HSH user because he takes my advice but ultimately does what he is comfortable with.

Most players come to us with a long history of losing. What they want is a simple-, profitable, turn-key approach.

I give them that, but rarely do they use it as-is. They insist on tweaking it beyond recognition in just a matter of days.

What Mike has done that is so remarkable, is to hang on to enough of my highly-vetted approach, and then mix his own stuff.

With HSH, you get to become MORE OF YOU.

Initially, he would go so far afield that it was like 95% Salony and it wouldn't work for him. Oh, I am sure it would have eventually, but, instead, he'd move back in my direction a bit.

He went through this streak, posting public plays, that was pretty fantastic. As he said, lots of FTS and (I think) 2nd-time starters. He'd post like a dozen of them every day and then report the results the next day.

Every single day he'd be slightly profitable. Not hugely, but like bet $40 get back $45, or bet $25 get back $35.

A bad day would look like bet $35, get back $32.

I knew he was headed for success like that because every single day he was posting horses that ran "live."

Now, it is far more him and a bit of my stuff.

Like all that Excel stuff. That's too much work for me. But Mike thrives on it.
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Old 11-04-2019, 07:57 PM   #135
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I've proven it multiple times over the past couple of years.

PS. Including today...where I did a public run of Dave's latest way to handicap with HSH...

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...d.php?t=155078

My posted wagers made just about $400 in profit. ROI was somewhere between 30-40%
Very nicely done. Congrats.
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