2019 Software Poll!

[Dave Schwartz]

Originally Posted by Speed Figure

I've had it since April 2018. My plan was to get a feel using old data trying to learn the basic things it does. That never happened so it's unusable.

HSH is, by far, the most powerful product available to a handicapper without building his own stuff.

That's because it is extremely flexible.

With flexibility, comes complexity.

With complexity, comes a bit of a learning curve.

You got HSH in April 2018 on an almost-free deal and you are complaining that we didn't throw in a bunch of free data as well.

Several times we have offered HSH at very low prices as a test to see what would happen if we almost gave the product away. The test showed us that dropping the price drastically gets us customers who are simply not willing to invest time or money in learning the product.

That is just not a business model that works for us.

I'm sorry, but our business model and your needs are simply not a good fit.

[JimG]

Dave,


I know you had the old horse street forum where users conversed about the software back in the "good ole days". Do you have a forum that fits that purpose now?


Jim

[46zilzal]

Originally Posted by mikesal57

So , you gave up after 6 months?

I know commercial software , like this , is difficult at first...
But watching many of his videos , I was able to piece things together
and it started to click...granted it took 3-6 months ....but Dave is very
determined to have all his people win and he gives his time and answer
emails whenever asked.

I takes MUCH longer than that (if you are a self taught computer used like yours truly) to get in the groove of making it work HOW YOU DISCOVER it..

I found at several tracks it worked VERY well, at others marginally, and at some not at all (possibly because I had not worked hard enough to find the correlates to that course...THAT is what the pickmaster is supposed to do and it does that WELL from all the feedback I get from other users).

I JUST have not been able to get that aspect of the software to work (pickmaster) for me yet, but other aspects are killing certain tracks

[Speed Figure]

Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz

HSH is, by far, the most powerful product available to a handicapper without building his own stuff.

That's because it is extremely flexible.

With flexibility, comes complexity.

With complexity, comes a bit of a learning curve.

You got HSH in April 2018 on an almost-free deal and you are complaining that we didn't throw in a bunch of free data as well.

Several times we have offered HSH at very low prices as a test to see what would happen if we almost gave the product away. The test showed us that dropping the price drastically gets us customers who are simply not willing to invest time or money in learning the product.

That is just not a business model that works for us.

I'm sorry, but our business model and your needs are simply not a good fit.

I'm not complaining! I simply said I thought it would have came with one or a few old races! I'm a software developer myself so I really have no need for it anyway.

[mikesal57]

Originally Posted by JimG

Dave,


I know you had the old horse street forum where users conversed about the software back in the "good ole days". Do you have a forum that fits that purpose now?


Jim

Jim....

Dave tried a new forum but it fizzled out.....

The thing is , when something is new and everyone is in on the ground level
people collaborate better with each other...no one has something over the next guy...till a break thru is made.....then the silence comes
I've seen it at the JCapper forum and with the HSH group....

Mike

[Dave Schwartz]

Originally Posted by JimG

Dave,
I know you had the old horse street forum where users conversed about the software back in the "good ole days". Do you have a forum that fits that purpose now?
Jim

We have a private Facebook group.

It blows hot and cold.

My experience is that horseplayers rarely want to collaborate, despite the fact that I've offered many incentives over the years.

More and more I see that when players cross over to winning, their conversation almost completely stops. The only time they post is when they've got a specific question that they need answered.

[traveler]

Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz

HSH is, by far, the most powerful product available to a handicapper without building his own stuff.

Tough to prove or disprove.

[headhawg]

Originally Posted by traveler

Tough to prove or disprove.

Tough to understand why you bothered to post that comment.

[traveler]

Originally Posted by headhawg

Tough to understand why you bothered to post that comment.

To wake up crusty old guys like you

[mikesal57]

Originally Posted by traveler

To wake up crusty old guys like you

HH...If I were you , I'd shit all over and mess this guys lawn up...OINK OINK

[traveler]

Originally Posted by mikesal57

HH...If I were you , I'd shit all over and mess this guys lawn up...OINK OINK

Just a fair response to unsubstantiated claims that no other major vendor makes.

Same old hokem, "We pick the best contenders". We being I as there is no we.

[Speed Figure]

Originally Posted by traveler

Just a fair response to unsubstantiated claims that no other major vendor makes.

Same old hokem, "We pick the best contenders". We being I as there is no we.

I often wondered who was "WE"! so we is he and he is we... got it!

[headhawg]

Originally Posted by traveler

Just a fair response to unsubstantiated claims that no other major vendor makes.

Same old hokem, "We pick the best contenders". We being I as there is no we.

So, you've tried all the software from major vendors, diligently used the programs for at least six months, and have fairly and objectively evaluated them, yes? NO????? Well, what makes you qualified to make your comments then? You have some agenda concerning Dave/HSH and his alleged "hokem"?

You're right. You woke me up. You probably should have let me continue with my naps. I get crankier and crustier without them.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by traveler

To wake up crusty old guys like you

Maybe you should know something about a person before you try to question their credibility.

Fist off, have you ever USED the program?
If not, I suggest your opinion is of NO value here.

[lefty359]

I hate it when people denigrate people like Dave. Not many good guys left in this game, so don't denigrate one of the good ones when you don't know what you're talking about!