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chickenhead · 08-02-2004, 03:29 PM

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...en_abortions_1

Dick Schmidt · 08-02-2004, 04:30 PM

Though I agree that sometimes the ACLU goes a bit overboard, in this case I agree with them. Having an abortion is a decision a woman makes, not her family, no matter what her age.

One of the reasons the ACLU and other such groups are so hated is that they fight battles out on the edge. The fight for a free press is not over the Washington Post, but over porn. Gun rights are defended over ownership of assault weapons and cheap "Saturday night specials", not fine hunting shotguns. Free speech is fought over Al Sharpton and Malcolm X, not Kerry or Bush. My own hometown of Glendale was once the headquarters of the American Nazi Party, and it was the ACLU that helped them fight unfair eviction. If you fight the good fight for our rights, you don't get to pick your clients.

Dick

I hold it to be the inalienable right of anybody to go to hell in his own way.
-Robert Frost

The easy way is always mined.

chickenhead · 08-02-2004, 04:36 PM

This is for notification, not approval. If the article is correct, all it says is the parents must be notified...I don't think that's too much to ask.

Tom · 08-02-2004, 09:42 PM

Just another case of liberals trying to destroy the family unit. If a girl is a minor, her parents are responsible for every aspect of her life. Now they want to let the state interfere with that.
This not only why I hate the ACLU it is why I hate liberals in general and democrates in particular. They seek to destroy our culture by destroying the family unit and poisoning our children's minds with their political agenda they call and education system. The ACLU stands for murdering babies, prohibiting God , and destryoing our sovereignty. The best thing you can read in the paper is a lawyer's obituary.

delayjf · 08-03-2004, 11:37 AM

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the ACLU founders claim that one of the purposes of the ACLU was to bring about the downfall of our Democracy using our judicial system??
I thought I read that somewhere.

JustMissed · 08-03-2004, 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by Dick Schmidt
Having an abortion is a decision a woman makes, not her family, no matter what her age.
Dick

I cannot imagine a smart guy like you would think this way.

In a lot of places a young girl cannot get her ears pierced, get a tatoo or even go to the dentist without their parents permission.
Heck, in some schools a kid can't even take a aspirin without their parents permission and now you want to make it OK for someone's precious little 12 or 13 year old daughter to have a serious medical procedure without their parents knowledge. WOW. You don't happen to live in California do you?

JM

PaceAdvantage · 08-03-2004, 05:57 PM

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Originally posted by JustMissed
I cannot imagine a smart guy like you would think this way.

In a lot of places a young girl cannot get her ears pierced, get a tatoo or even go to the dentist without their parents permission.
Heck, in some schools a kid can't even take a aspirin without their parents permission and now you want to make it OK for someone's precious little 12 or 13 year old daughter to have a serious medical procedure without their parents knowledge. WOW. You don't happen to live in California do you?

JM

My thoughts exactly JustMissed. Excellent points about how parents need to be notified and consulted in just about every other area of life concerning their MINOR children, but when it comes to abortion, a potentially DEADLY procedure (rare, but not unheard of), people want to make it ok to keep the parents in the dark!!!! What a crazy world....

kenwoodallpromos · 08-03-2004, 06:44 PM

Anti-american Communist Lawyers United. Anarchist agenda built on negatism.
Other groups work toward some of the sames case goals in a more sane manner.

Tom · 08-04-2004, 12:47 PM

ACLU = Hidden Agenda

Idea is good, execution leaves much to be sesired.

PaceAdvantage · 08-04-2004, 01:00 PM

I agree with Tom. The idea of the ACLU is noble and just. There should be someone out there defending free speech at every corner....we need that check and balance, no matter how unpopular the speech may be.

CryingForTheHorses · 08-05-2004, 05:54 PM

I am not a father (Have a little dog).I would be horrified if my little 12 to 16 yo girl had a abortion without my knowing!!

Tom · 08-05-2004, 08:40 PM

This is the agend af the feminazi's and other degenerates that are core democrates. Divid the country and destroy the family unit so that people will become dependant on THEM.

superfecta · 08-06-2004, 01:43 AM

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Originally posted by Dick Schmidt
Though I agree that sometimes the ACLU goes a bit overboard, in this case I agree with them. Having an abortion is a decision a woman makes, not her family, no matter what her age.

One of the reasons the ACLU and other such groups are so hated is that they fight battles out on the edge. The fight for a free press is not over the Washington Post, but over porn. Gun rights are defended over ownership of assault weapons and cheap "Saturday night specials", not fine hunting shotguns. Free speech is fought over Al Sharpton and Malcolm X, not Kerry or Bush. My own hometown of Glendale was once the headquarters of the American Nazi Party, and it was the ACLU that helped them fight unfair eviction. If you fight the good fight for our rights, you don't get to pick your clients.

Dick

I hold it to be the inalienable right of anybody to go to hell in his own way.
-Robert Frost

The easy way is always mined.

While it is a distasteful subject I believe the ACLU does have a point.The more pressing question is why should this affect you as a parent?If you are worried about this law,does that mean you are not a well informed parent about your child?You should know what your children are doing and forming them on good behavior.I have a daughter that is under 16 but looks 21 (I hate the fact that men my age often look at her like a piece of meat)but I feel I have raised her well enough that hopefully she doesn't put herself in that situation.Many of the pitfalls of todays youth can be blamed on the fact they weren't raised by anyone,their parents didn't get too involved in raising them.But they get upset when the teenage kids are getting drunk,stealing,and having sex ,by then its too late.It amazes me how lax most parents are.Afraid of their kids or consider them an annoyance.
I don't agree with everything the ACLU does.but we need these types of groups to keep the goverment from trampling all our rights.Remember that laws are not determined by right and wrong,they are determined by precidence(?).The Laws that came before them.And goverment likes to use the laws to their advantage,not just to maintain civility.

PaceAdvantage · 08-06-2004, 03:24 AM

Can a 16 year old girl have her tonsils removed without parental consent?

JustRalph · 08-06-2004, 07:26 AM

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Originally posted by PaceAdvantage
Can a 16 year old girl have her tonsils removed without parental consent?

Man! There are some serious lines you could come back with on that question........ But I will stay serious and avoid the temptation.

I think it is a great question. She can't take an aspirin at school but she can receive a condom in health class........learn about Fellatio on the school bus..........and then have an abortion all in the same month.........and the ACLU is going to fight for these "Rights" Amazing...........