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01-23-2017, 08:00 AM
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Feb 4th: Withers, Holy Bull, Robert B Lewis
Figured id start a thread about the 3 pts races on the 4th to kick start some derby chatter. Anyone know who is pointed where? The Florida horses look strong this year.
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01-23-2017, 01:06 PM
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01-23-2017, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Spalding No!
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Certainly looks like another weak NY crop. Is Mo Town staying in NY or shipping out?
With all the talent in Florida, woulda thought it would be smart to put the Jersey bred Irish War Cry in NY for the winter. The Florida talent pool is stacked and there is only so many points to go around. The NY prep season looks like a nice easy way to get your horse to the derby whereas your gonna have to run some hard tough races to pick up points....
Last edited by PowerUpPaynter; 01-23-2017 at 04:19 PM.
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01-23-2017, 04:39 PM
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... in florida
dont know why i wrote it that way. pure brain fart
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01-23-2017, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PowerUpPaynter
Certainly looks like another weak NY crop. Is Mo Town staying in NY or shipping out?
The NY prep season looks like a nice easy way to get your horse to the derby whereas your gonna have to run some hard tough races to pick up points....
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Just a note on a couple nominees.
Likely favorite El Areeb looks like another mid-Atlantic prospect a la Smarty Jones, Afleet Alex, and Barbaro. Exchange Rate was a very good stallion and this horse hails from a strong Sam-Son Farm family.
Also, I mentioned in a different thread the coincidence of the Claiborne broodmare Narrate showing up in a couple pedigrees this year. Sure enough, there is a 3rd Derby prospect. The NY-bred Haul Anchor actually has a blue-blooded pedigree. His 4th dam is Narrate, 3rd dam Yarn, and 2nd dam Spunoutofcontrol (the dam of Fed Biz).
Haul Anchor is by Bernardini. Coincidentally, another Withers nominee, Win With Pride is a "nephew" of Bernardini, having the late Cara Rafaela as his 2nd dam.
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02-02-2017, 07:15 AM
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Holy Bull is an absoluute stacked field. Finally a good race on the trail... Irish War Cry could pull the upset.
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02-02-2017, 08:45 AM
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The RBL and the Withers look week. Since I work nights, its a good thing, I won't wake up early to watch either one of them, (at least not on purpose). The Holy Bull. that one I do want to watch live.
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02-04-2017, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by PowerUpPaynter
Holy Bull is an absoluute stacked field. Finally a good race on the trail... Irish War Cry could pull the upset.
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Holy Bull is an interesting race.
First back for the 2YO champ after his BC Juvy victory. Not sure that Classic Empire is the 3/5 lock that his ML suggests.
Gunnevera, Fact Finding, Talk Logistics, Cavil, and Irish War Cry present an intriguing field.
Will definitely be watching IWC with interest in his 1st go at 2 turns. Training well and 1st time Lasix.
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02-04-2017, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PowerUpPaynter
Holy Bull is an absoluute stacked field. Finally a good race on the trail... Irish War Cry could pull the upset.
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Love the pedigree and exceptional closing speed. Distance well within the wheel house. This colt is the key to $ money in this race IMO. 
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02-04-2017, 12:56 PM
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Fact Finding scratched... anyone know why?
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02-04-2017, 06:00 PM
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Love the pedigree and exceptional closing speed. Distance well within the wheel house. This colt is the key to $ money in this race IMO. |
9/2 Nope!
Yes the TC season is here. Excited for watching it evolve but it has become a relatively useless betting venture with the parade of underlays and avoidance.
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02-04-2017, 06:23 PM
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9/2 Nope!
Yes the TC season is here. Excited for watching it evolve but it has become a relatively useless betting venture with the parade of underlays and avoidance.
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The price scared me away too, he looked good today though.
Any word on why Fact Finding scratched?
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02-04-2017, 06:27 PM
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The price scared me away too, he looked good today though.
Any word on why Fact Finding scratched?
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I didn't hear anything. I thought 6-1 was a reasonable expectation for stretchout horse facing the likes of Classic Empire. 4-1 was absolute dogshit! I didn't have the time to play any horizontal bets today. This would have been an include.
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02-04-2017, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CincyHorseplayer
I didn't hear anything. I thought 6-1 was a reasonable expectation for stretchout horse facing the likes of Classic Empire. 4-1 was absolute dogshit! I didn't have the time to play any horizontal bets today. This would have been an include.
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Yeah, I'm with you Cincy.
15/1 ML, which was an obvious joke, but 9/2 to 4/1? Too many smart people got on him. 
I was looking forward to this day to bet on IWC. Hopes crushed. 
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02-04-2017, 07:04 PM
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Yeah, I'm with you Cincy.
15/1 ML, which was an obvious joke, but 9/2 to 4/1? Too many smart people got on him. |
Sometimes the smart money is actually smart.
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