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Old 01-15-2019, 05:49 PM   #16
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I thought he was talking about Sheldon from "Big Bang Theory"
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Old 01-15-2019, 07:24 PM   #17
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https://www.vsin.com/source-cdi-obje...n-mississippi/

An objection from Churchill Downs Inc. led DraftKings to take down its Kentucky Derby futures Saturday morning, only three days after they were posted at the Scarlet Pearl Casino in D’Iberville, Miss., a source told VSiN.

The source, who is a handicapper and horse owner, said Monday morning that CDI cited legal precedent as its basis to demand a stop to the betting.

Separately, a racing-industry sports bettor who asked to remain anonymous vouched for that reason in a Twitter direct message Monday afternoon to VSiN. He said that a ticket writer at the Scarlet Pearl told him “unofficially” that CDI wanted the futures taken down. He also said that a casino “supervisor was mum about it.”

Johnny Avello, the new director of operations for DraftKings Sportsbook, was making his first attempt to post his futures in Mississippi after 13 years of doing so in his old role running the race and sportsbook at the Wynn Las Vegas.

The problem CDI would have with DraftKings and Mississippi is that neither hosts betting from any racetrack, including Churchill Downs, the home of the Kentucky Derby. Conversely, the Wynn Las Vegas is one of many Nevada books offering pari-mutuel betting from nearly every track in the U.S. and Canada, meaning CDI gets a piece of that action. CDI also operates and manages casinos and sportsbooks in Mississippi that are direct competitors with the Scarlet Pearl.

A spokesman for Churchill Downs said in an email to VSiN that he was “unaware of the details” of any objection by CDI and was reaching out to executives to fill in the blanks.

Avello said by text that he was “not clear on what really happened” and offered no further comment.

Derby futures betting came to a stop Saturday morning without public explanation. Allen Godfrey, executive director of the Mississippi Gaming Commission, said in an email that “Scarlett Pearl/Draft Kings (sic) suspended it on their own.”

Attempts to contact Nico Sfanos, the sportsbook director at Scarlet Pearl, were diverted to DraftKings’ corporate communications. A spokesman for DraftKings on Monday afternoon said that he was “working on getting something” in response to a VSiN email.

Avello’s move to DraftKings and regulatory red tape combined to delay his annual posting of Derby futures for nearly four months before Mississippi regulators approved them to be opened Wednesday at the Scarlet Pearl.
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Old 01-15-2019, 07:29 PM   #18
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What did I do wrong? The DOJ and Adelson were mentioned in the already provided links here.
You didn't do anything wrong. Just reminding everyone that this thread isn't going to devolve into a Sheldon/Trump diatribe.
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Old 01-15-2019, 07:49 PM   #19
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You didn't do anything wrong. Just reminding everyone that this thread isn't going to devolve into a Sheldon/Trump diatribe.
So I shouldn't make a joke that you would have thought giving Adelson's wife the Presidential medal of freedom was enough?
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Old 01-15-2019, 07:52 PM   #20
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Old 01-15-2019, 07:57 PM   #21
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Well if you guys want to move to Canada, you're glad to
I tried moving to Canada...but they wouldn't accept me. They said that I had to show adequate means of support.
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I sent a letter of inquiry to Ottawa, Thas, but they saw the return address and told me they weren't accepting anyone from a plantation state right now.
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So I shouldn't make a joke that you would have thought giving Adelson's wife the Presidential medal of freedom was enough?
I know it's crazy. Never before in presidential politics has a major donor or lobby garnered favor from the administration they helped elect...Trump is so original...

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I know it's crazy. Never before in presidential politics has a major donor or lobby garnered favor from the administration they helped elect...Trump is so original...

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I was joking around, but since you brought it up.....I don't think anyone has bought the medal of freedom in the past, but feel free to prove me wrong.
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I was joking around, but since you brought it up.....I don't think anyone has bought the medal of freedom in the past, but feel free to prove me wrong.
I'll accept your theory. How's that for a downer?
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:47 PM   #26
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You didn't do anything wrong. Just reminding everyone that this thread isn't going to devolve into a Sheldon/Trump diatribe.
On gambling issues, the political parties dont generally play into it. I know many Democrats who are against extending gambling because it is ostensibly a hidden tax on the poor. (Of course, I disagree.) And many Republicans are against gambling for moral (read, religious) reasons or are catering to their evangelical backers.

But on the other side, many Republicans have strong libertarian leanings -- thus are OK with gambling and may also see revenues as an avenue to cut taxes. And there are Democrats who push gambling as a way to pay for social programs.

For those in office, as was pointed out here, it often depends on who is funding their campaigns. I remember Clinton was pretty friendly to the casinos who were major backers of his campaigns.

Generally, Democrats tend to be more amenable to Indian casinos -- Natives are largely Democratic and Dems also have guilty consciences about the past. Indians also received preferences in order to settle treaty violation lawsuits (upstate NY for example).

In the old days, New York State OTB had a ton of clout with both parties -- hence that dumb surcharge -- because of all the patronage it gave out. Nothing to do with ideology/partisanship.

Bottom line: There is no political argument to be had here. Its an issue that transcends liberal/conservative or Democrat/Republican.
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Great response Andy...as usual...clear, level-headed and realistic. Wish more of us were like you (including me).

And you should start posting more often again...
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On gambling issues, the political parties dont generally play into it. I know many Democrats who are against extending gambling because it is ostensibly a hidden tax on the poor. (Of course, I disagree.) And many Republicans are against gambling for moral (read, religious) reasons or are catering to their evangelical backers.

But on the other side, many Republicans have strong libertarian leanings -- thus are OK with gambling and may also see revenues as an avenue to cut taxes. And there are Democrats who push gambling as a way to pay for social programs.

For those in office, as was pointed out here, it often depends on who is funding their campaigns. I remember Clinton was pretty friendly to the casinos who were major backers of his campaigns.

Generally, Democrats tend to be more amenable to Indian casinos -- Natives are largely Democratic and Dems also have guilty consciences about the past. Indians also received preferences in order to settle treaty violation lawsuits (upstate NY for example).

In the old days, New York State OTB had a ton of clout with both parties -- hence that dumb surcharge -- because of all the patronage it gave out. Nothing to do with ideology/partisanship.

Bottom line: There is no political argument to be had here. Its an issue that transcends liberal/conservative or Democrat/Republican.
Excellent thoughtful post. How refreshing to see an analysis that transcends political issues without bias.
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