Brisnet Misleading Advertising - Horse Racing Forum - PaceAdvantage.Com

garyoz · 01-26-2005, 10:15 AM

Does anyone besides me find it misleading that Bris is claiming that 17 of the top 20 finishers in the NTRA Handicapping Tournament were "Brisnet customers." What Bris products were they using? Does the ad imply that they were successful because of Brisnet? Hmmm...that's how I took it. I think that the claim is really cheezy. They probably also are DRF customers. It costs nothing to be a brisnet customer.

Will Bris ever put facts behind all their hype? Let's hear exactly how the 17 used Bris products.

GMB@BP · 01-26-2005, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by garyoz

Does anyone besides me find it misleading that Bris is claiming that 17 of the top 20 finishers in the NTRA Handicapping Tournament were "Brisnet customers." What Bris products were they using? Does the ad imply that they were successful because of Brisnet? Hmmm...that's how I took it. I think that the claim is really cheezy. They probably also are DRF customers. It costs nothing to be a brisnet customer.

Will Bris ever put facts behind all their hype? Let's hear exactly how the 17 used Bris products.

Since you specifically mention Bris I think its fair to comment that what they are doing is misleading. They do say "Bris Members", which says they have an account there, I have not read it saying they specifically used the product. I know the winner used Tgraph for his handicapping.

gillenr · 01-26-2005, 10:56 AM

Having been a "member" for over 15 years, & having just gotten off the phone with tech support - quickly solving my problem in American English - I must say in their defense that IT IS AN AD!
All PPs come from the same data source - it is their price, presentation and customer service that satisfy me. Try DRF customer service - look at their formulator forum on their web site.

GMB@BP · 01-26-2005, 11:13 AM

Totally off subject since you are talking product and service, which we all agree is not DRF strong point over the years, but it does appear new management is trying to improve it,

but on the subject,

it is an add, and it is misleadeing. I bet DRF can say that just about every handicapper either purchased a form that day or is a member on their site, its a rather dubious claim that for the most part is misleading.

gillenr · 01-26-2005, 11:25 AM

As I said, it is an AD - all ads for everything are misleading; have you ever seen a fat guy in a beer ad!

ceejay · 01-26-2005, 11:26 AM

Now I'm not claiming that anyone is lying or attempting to mislead here, but The problem with the BRIS claim (and any others like) is that these claims are difficult to assess.

I am a BRIS member, a DRF member, a Turfday user and have a Thorograph account (which I used during their free promo week in Dec but couldn't use effectively). If I went to either of the big vegas tourneys this month and won these (and maybe other) services could claim me as a member, but that does not mean that I used their data/sevice to win the event.

Valuist · 01-26-2005, 11:27 AM

Thorograph is doing something similar, saying the past 3 winners were customers who had accounts there. I've got a Brisnet account myself but I rarely use it.

karlskorner · 01-26-2005, 11:39 AM

Couple years back, BRIS in their newsletter announced that I had won a contest using BRIS. I dont't enter contests, but it was nice to know that I won.

GMB@BP · 01-26-2005, 11:41 AM

I dont know about the two previous years, but I know this years winner IS a tgraph product user on a regular basis.

cj · 01-26-2005, 12:18 PM

Careful, JB might come here and threaten to take you to court!

hracingplyr · 01-26-2005, 07:36 PM

yea but the guy that won the contest actually used the thorograph's to win the contest so no false advertising on thorographs part

GR1@HTR · 01-26-2005, 10:34 PM

If you subscribe to Bris...even thier tote services they will claim you as one of their own...I was fortunate enough to play in the NTRA tourney and they sent me (and all bris subscribers) a letter saying to stop by and pick up their PP's for free...A nice gesture but they just want to be able to stake a claim that if you win, you were a BRIS subscriber (even though you may not of used their stuff for the tourney).

Zaf · 01-26-2005, 10:38 PM

Yeah, I played in a few contests at the Albany Teletheater, and they always had a rep handing out free ultimate PP's, (out of the goodness of their heart)

ZAFONIC

MV McKee · 01-27-2005, 01:00 AM

We recieved a letter in the mail about a week prior to the NTRA from Brisnet.
They referred to us as BRISNET users, and offered free PP's (of various types) etc., the only catch being that we had to get the PP's by going to Harry Furlong's room at Bally's (that is not a joke).
My guess is that the 17 contestants they refer to in the advertisment have purchased product(s) from BRISNET at some point in the past 5(?) years.
I am only guessing at the timeframe based on the fact that I have not purchased anything from BRISNET since October of 2000, yet (for purposes of the NTRA tourney) was still referenced as a BRISNET customer.
Based on the number of "sheets" I saw scattered on the floor at day's end, I would guess that there were a significant number of T-Graph and Ragozin users in the contest as well, obviously current customers.

NoDayJob · 01-27-2005, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by hracingplyr

yea but the guy that won the contest actually used the thorograph's to win the contest so no false advertising on thorographs part

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