Stronach... Horse Racing Charter of Rights

[rwwupl]

Stronach and Mills proposed "Horse Racing Charter of Rights"....


http://www.racingfuture.com/horse_ra...of_rights.html


Excerpt:

Horse Racing Charter of Rights (Draft)

THE SUCCESS OF ANY BUSINESS REQUIRES INPUT AND CO-OPERATION FROM ITS PRINCIPAL STAKEHOLDERS

A business is most likely to prosper over the long-term when the basis for sharing the economic rewards of the business is clearly defined, financial information is readily shared, clear communications exist among all principal stakeholders and there is mutual respect for the investment each stakeholder has made contributing to the success of the enterprise.


IN HORSE RACING, THE PRINCIPAL STAKEHOLDERS ARE:

Racetrack Owners & Horse Owners

Racetrack Owners depend on their Executive Management to represent their interests. Horse Owners depend on their Horsemen’s Group.

Trainers and Jockeys are key participants in the success of the business and must share fairly in its financial rewards.

MID and its employees are committed to insuring that our horse racing business is operated with integrity and concern for the health and safety of the horses and the people who work with them.


Punch the link and read more.

What do you think?

[Charli125]

I haven't read the full article yet, but one thing jumps out at me right away.

IN HORSE RACING, THE PRINCIPAL STAKEHOLDERS ARE: Racetrack Owners & Horse Owners

This statement completely ignores the investment that Horse Players are making into the racing product. He might have other good things to say, I'm not sure yet, but without recognizing the player, he's off to a bad start in my opinion.

[kenwoodall2]

As I reported, they want to cut out the associations and CHRB, deny the backside workers, mickey mouse the track, dump execs, and the winner of the 50% ownership in the horse has to buy owner's licenses wherever the horse runs. Any good ideas are bungled up.
I would like to give Mills a chance, but will Stronach? Or like the CHRB meeting, will he only listen to himself and exhibit his insecurity? I think Stronach shoulkd be given free rein to set the hours but not the days of SA meets. Let him compete with the Qrtrs or start the racecard at 10 AM to catch the Eastern Seaboard crowd and hold workouts in the evening.

[Igeteven]

Bill of Rights,

Give me a break

Where are the players bill of rights.

For the Track, by the Track, of the Track shall not parish from the horsemen rights.

[thespaah]

Once again, the most important ingrdient, the people who wager on and therefore fund the sport, are left out.
Time and time again track managements have been reminded that it is imperative to treat attendees as valued customers.
Track managemnts and horsemen's groups remind horse players that they are merely tolerated. Some of these people actually despise the bettors.
Nothing will change in the downward spiral of on track attendance and handle until a radical attitude adjustment toward horseplayers is attained and implemented.
The answer is obvious. Racetrack managements should take a page right out of the casino operations manual.
Treat your best customers like they are appreciated. Give them perks. Offer the smaller players incentives to keep coming back. Rate their play and grant them perks for their loyalty.

[rwwupl]

Originally Posted by thespaah

Once again, the most important ingrdient, the people who wager on and therefore fund the sport, are left out.
Time and time again track managements have been reminded that it is imperative to treat attendees as valued customers.
Track managemnts and horsemen's groups remind horse players that they are merely tolerated. Some of these people actually despise the bettors.
Nothing will change in the downward spiral of on track attendance and handle until a radical attitude adjustment toward horseplayers is attained and implemented.
The answer is obvious. Racetrack managements should take a page right out of the casino operations manual.
Treat your best customers like they are appreciated. Give them perks. Offer the smaller players incentives to keep coming back. Rate their play and grant them perks for their loyalty.

---------------------------------------------------------------------
Your thoughts and vote will officially count if you send to the address or e-mail listed by Mills, even though we appreciate it here too.

http://www.racingfuture.com/

[thespaah]

Originally Posted by rwwupl

---------------------------------------------------------------------
Your thoughts and vote will officially count if you send to the address or e-mail listed by Mills, even though we appreciate it here too.

http://www.racingfuture.com/

I touched up my post a bit but did not alter the tone and tenor. I emailed it to Mr Mills.
Let's see if I get a response.
If so, I will certainily post it here

[kenwoodall2]

In the charter the customer can make suggestions. Mills responded to both of my elaborate emails full of ideas, said he would study them. Hopefully all my comments on this forum will be considered constructive criticism!! In all fairness, his is the first site set up to a major extent for ideas.
many of my current ideas are to easily provide better content or format for paper and on-track information, my longshot betting pool, and honoring horses.

[Indulto]

RW,
Having once considered a “Horseplayer Bill of Rights” modeled on a “Patient Bill of Rights” which had in turn been inspired by the [Citizen] Bill of Rights in our Constitution; my first reaction was that the track owners and horse owners comprise a relatively small group of people to be seeking protection from a controlling authority.

My next reaction was that if horsemen want to compete at MID racetracks for purses that are not funded by takeout from wagering, but instead from admissions, concessions, and television like some other sports, the proposed structure was not unreasonable.

My conclusion, however, is that MID itself is a controlling authority from which horseplayers should be seeking protection. Their attitude toward their customers seems similar to the attitudes of feudal lords toward their serfs. The document brought George Orwells’s novel, “Animal Farm,” to mind.

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by rwwupl

Stronach and Mills proposed "Horse Racing Charter of Rights"....


http://www.racingfuture.com/horse_ra...of_rights.html

I must be missing something here. Help me out.
I went to that website link above and saw no mention of Stronach.

[Horseplayersbet.com]

Track owners are in it for profit. Horse owners for the most part like Horseplayers would like a profit, but cannot expect a profit.

Why are horse owners considered major stakeholders and not Horseplayers?

To me, the only major stakeholder is the track owner. And they derive their income from the Horseplayer not the horseman.

[DJofSD]

Appendix to Proposed Horse Racing Charter

The rights and responsibilities of each group with respect to the operation of our horse racing business are as follows:

Racetrack Operator

The following are responsibilities of racetrack management:

* To work with racetrack employees and horsemen to provide customers with the best possible entertainment experience.
* To provide a safe and clean environment for horses, workers, employees and customers.
* To regularly communicate with employees and horsemen concerning important matters affecting the operation of the business.
* To involve employees and horsemen in major decisions affecting the operations of the business.
* To be open to suggestions from employees, horsemen and customers.
* To be innovative in growing the business for the benefit of all stakeholders.

Customers -- that's us, folks -- are mentioned in the appendix. And note, they are providing an entertainment experience. If you are trying to win money you are outside the proposed charter.

Also noticed that when customer is used, it is always last in the list. That is not by accident.

Frank's charter is for his benefit, not the customers and certainly not for the betting patron.

[rwwupl]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

I must be missing something here. Help me out.
I went to that website link above and saw no mention of Stronach.

I think it is clear that Mr. Mills works for Mr. Stronach and this project is part of an approved agenda for MID or Mr. Stronach. It has been in the news lately.

What was missed,other than explaining how they intend to present a better product at a competitive price to achieve fair market share with other forms of "ENTERTAINMENT" or..... Gambling?

[rwwupl]

Originally Posted by DJofSD

Customers -- that's us, folks -- are mentioned in the appendix. And note, they are providing an entertainment experience. If you are trying to win money you are outside the proposed charter.

Also noticed that when customer is used, it is always last in the list. That is not by accident.

Frank's charter is for his benefit, not the customers and certainly not for the betting patron.

I agree. The emphasis seems to be on Entertainment,rather than on a Sport with Gambling.

The answer to all problems with an entertainment venue is..."you have been entertained have you not?...if not find something you enjoy."

I think Wrestling went that way,and was successful,but they never had Pari-Mutuel betting, and are now not considered a serious sport.

Pari-Mutuel betting,with customers competeing with each other, makes horse racing different from any other, and the games financial foundation rests on that fact.

The customers should be every bit a part of the consideration of the stakeholders Charter of Rights, but are being treated as though they are a given. Where are the customers rights? I guess we do not have any...Take it or leave it?

Without a program to increase the number of customers,they will continue to drift away....making the "Principle Stakeholders" (Horsemen and Race Tracks) irrelevant.

Horsemen and Race Tracks will be fighting over what is left.

[InsideThePylons-MW]

Originally Posted by DJofSD

If you are trying to win money you are outside the proposed charter.

As I've said before.......For years, it was drilled into racetrack executives and industry people's heads that anybody who is a long term winning bettor is stealing money from the track and horsemen. Everybody heard it and nobody ever objected to this line of thinking. Many, if not the majority, still believe it to be true.