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05-23-2020, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by tucker6
https://www.rt.com/news/488070-austr...suicide-spike/
"A spike in suicides triggered by Covid-19 lockdowns is expected to exceed deaths from the actual virus by a factor of 10 in Australia, according to researchers from Sydney University’s Brain and Mind Center, who published their findings on Thursday."
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Hcap is talking total COVID-19 Deaths.
At specific places on certain days or weeks the Suicide rate may be higher, but not the Total for the year.
The original assertion about suicides being higher than COVID deaths was poorly stated and needed clarification.
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05-23-2020, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by horses4courses
I nominate yourself, your dad Tom, and a few other con lackies on here to be grief counselors
for some of the victims' families. You know......you can point out the brighter side to them.
Your assertion that they haven't died in vain, etc., etc.......
Btw, how are things going with your Boy from Brazil?
No lock downs there - just massive casualties.
A sort of genocide of the poor, perhaps?
Just like here, that's okay with the "haves".
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Oh I know...I'm such a cold-hearted bastard...
When I see you wringing your hands 365 days a year for everyone who dies of something in the USA, maybe I'll take your point more seriously.
4 months of official tracking on the Johns Hopkins site and 339,000 dead worldwide. Flu is still king...and that's WITH a vaccine, which mitigates the flu far more than social distancing has mitigated COVID.
And yet, I don't recall you once lamenting the hundreds of thousands (as much as 600,000 in a bad year) killed worldwide from the flu every year...not once on this board did you post about this...and you've been here for 11 years now...imagine that.
Last edited by PaceAdvantage; 05-23-2020 at 11:57 AM.
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05-23-2020, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Oh I know...I'm such a cold-hearted bastard...
When I see you wringing your hands 365 days a year for everyone who dies of something in the USA, maybe I'll take your point more seriously.
4 months of official tracking on the Johns Hopkins site and 339,000 dead worldwide. Flu is still king...and that's WITH a vaccine, which mitigates the flu far more than social distancing has mitigated COVID.
And yet, I don't recall you once lamenting the hundreds of thousands (as much as 600,000 in a bad year) killed worldwide from the flu every year...not once on this board did you post about this...and you've been here for 11 years now...imagine that.
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Funny I don’t remember influenza killing 100,000 in Less than 3 months in the United States in recent history.
Maybe you have a link that can refresh my memory.
Allan
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05-23-2020, 01:39 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hcap
Anecdotal, "in the Bay Area"
Let me know when suicides equal deaths from the coronavirus
Coronavirus Cases:
1,645,353
Deaths:
97,655
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You post these stat like you understand what they mean,.
You most certainly do not.
No one has been as totally ignorant on this whole thing than you.
World-wide.
Congratulations.
btw, you were an engineer?
What did you engineer?
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05-23-2020, 01:43 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Originally Posted by Greyfox
Hcap is talking total COVID-19 Deaths.
At specific places on certain days or weeks the Suicide rate may be higher, but not the Total for the year.
The original assertion about suicides being higher than COVID deaths was poorly stated and needed clarification.
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And the total numbers mean NOTHING in any specific are.
hcap is not bright enough to figure that out.
In my area, we are NOTHING close to NYC, and over 95% of our cases came in one nursing home.
But hcap thinks we should hide in the basement for another year or two.
Thank God no one listens to hcap.
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05-23-2020, 01:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biggestal99
Funny I don’t remember influenza killing 100,000 in Less than 3 months in the United States in recent history.
Maybe you have a link that can refresh my memory.
Allan
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Flippant reply.
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05-23-2020, 03:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biggestal99
Funny I don’t remember influenza killing 100,000 in Less than 3 months in the United States in recent history.
Maybe you have a link that can refresh my memory.
Allan
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If they counted flu like COVID, I'm sure the number would be 2x100,000
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05-23-2020, 04:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tucker6
https://www.rt.com/news/488070-austr...suicide-spike/
"A spike in suicides triggered by Covid-19 lockdowns is expected to exceed deaths from the actual virus by a factor of 10 in Australia, according to researchers from Sydney University’s Brain and Mind Center, who published their findings on Thursday."
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So a scientific ppjojerction from down under? Are they going tio be able to separate the srerss created by concerns and fears of getting sick and dying, from the mitigation measures instituted in order to prevent that? Are they going to interview the suiciders?
Hope your website "RT News" (Right?) is more objective than some notorious fringe Australian climate deniers.
Oh, lookie here on your website....
Computer modelling for Covid-19 was FATALLY flawed. What if I told you that climate change models are EVEN WORSE?
I would have never guessed! 
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05-23-2020, 04:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Oh I know...I'm such a cold-hearted bastard...
When I see you wringing your hands 365 days a year for everyone who dies of something in the USA, maybe I'll take your point more seriously.
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Someone says you don't give a shit about Covid deaths (which you don't)..
Your retort is, screw you brah I don't see you giving a shit about all the other things people die of.
That is TOP NOTCH arguing. Congrats.
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05-23-2020, 05:12 PM
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No, it is reality.
Fact is the deaths themselves do not matter to hcap.
Reality - you should drop by once we re-open. 
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05-23-2020, 05:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FantasticDan
Someone says you don't give a shit about Covid deaths (which you don't)..
Your retort is, screw you brah I don't see you giving a shit about all the other things people die of.
That is TOP NOTCH arguing. Congrats.
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Thanks. It's pretty ironclad.
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05-23-2020, 07:04 PM
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I think id someone was going to commit suicide, it would be best for the country if they took out a bad politician before or at the same time.
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05-23-2020, 10:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Oh I know...I'm such a cold-hearted bastard...
When I see you wringing your hands 365 days a year for everyone who dies of something in the USA, maybe I'll take your point more seriously.
4 months of official tracking on the Johns Hopkins site and 339,000 dead worldwide. Flu is still king...and that's WITH a vaccine, which mitigates the flu far more than social distancing has mitigated COVID.
And yet, I don't recall you once lamenting the hundreds of thousands (as much as 600,000 in a bad year) killed worldwide from the flu every year...not once on this board did you post about this...and you've been here for 11 years now...imagine that.
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Okay....so.....let's assume you were 100% correct about all of this.
I don't believe that is the case, but I'll play along.
Comparing this virus to the flu is oranges to apples.
The rate, and manner, in which it spreads is completely different.
The biggest flaws in your approach are twofold.
You have the benefit of hindsight, however recent.
This virus is completely uncharted territory.
Looking at statistics, even a day or two after the fact, gives you
a big edge when it comes to the "I told you so" refrain.
It's like predicting the winner of a horse race at the eighth pole.
Secondly, imagine if you had been completely wrong (which you're not).
Lock downs were next to non-existent, and yet the fatality rate was far
higher than actually transpired. You (and everyone in authority) would
be drowning in the blood and corpses of victims. Not a happy situation.
Government erred on the side of caution.
Why? Because they had to. Human life is precious.
The outcome (which is horrible in itself) had to be feared.
Democratic and liberal hoaxes?
Don't even go there.......
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he can manage to stay out of prison. Think about it.
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05-23-2020, 11:30 PM
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How could I be completely wrong when I NEVER advocated for DOING NOTHING? Which is the basis of your last reply.
I can't believe some are still operating under this false assumption about me.
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05-24-2020, 12:13 AM
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Location: New Hampshire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
How could I be completely wrong when I NEVER advocated for DOING NOTHING? Which is the basis of your last reply.
I can't believe some are still operating under this false assumption about me.
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So glad that you volunteered for this.
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