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Old 10-14-2014, 12:22 PM   #31
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What's The Reason for CompuTrak's Success?
Just to be clear, are you asking why it picks so winners? or why it has sold so many pieces of software?
I believe the results shown, by independent users, at the links at the beginning of this thread show that the question refers to why does it picks so many winners.
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Old 10-14-2014, 03:42 PM   #32
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I believe the results shown, by independent users, at the links at the beginning of this thread show that the question refers to why does it picks so many winners.
Do you have an answer for this question...or are you asking us for the answer?
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Old 10-14-2014, 04:04 PM   #33
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Do you have an answer for this question...or are you asking us for the answer?
He's advertising his product. And PA is cool with that as he has paid for that right. But I am sure you already knew that.
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Old 10-14-2014, 04:08 PM   #34
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i would like to know why the software has automatic picks, if betting these picks have not been verified to be profitable on any statistically valid sample.
seems to me it should not be in the software as it can mislead a purchaser.
An excellent question that has been left unanswered thus far. I would also add that if you include an odds line (which computrak does) it should be a good gauge to judge the performance of its picks. Using this column or that column depending on this or that is the usual response from software vendors because it is difficult, if not impossible, to pin down the effectiveness of the application.

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Old 10-14-2014, 04:22 PM   #35
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He's advertising his product. And PA is cool with that as he has paid for that right. But I am sure you already knew that.
Yes...I know that. But using a question like that as a thread title is a lousy way of advertising...because no one here knows if indeed CompuTrak has been as "successful" as the OP claims it has been. The "proof" that he keeps referring to is nine years old...which leads one to believe that the more recent results have been discouraging -- otherwise a more resent result sample would have been used. And the demo sample of his product that he is giving out is inaccessible to some of us.

That's why I said..."if you are going to advertise...then advertise". Don't ask us why your product is so successful; explain to us how successful your product really is. A free demo sample is nice...but it does no good if we can't open it.
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Old 10-14-2014, 04:31 PM   #36
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Yesterday at Santa Anita with settings of 6 pace lines, Distance Range= 1.5 and NO surface restrictions.

Looking at the Odds Line ONLY, TOP pick.

R1> $11.60
R2> OUT
R3> $11.80
R4> OUT
R5> SHOW
R6> $21.60
R7> A problem with file, wouldn't cap race 7.
R8> $10.60
R9> SHOW


I know, ONLY using the OL, isn't advocated, as the program has so much more to offer. BUT, these results aren't bad. And, NO, you won't get these results every day, on every track. But, then, what program would?
I checked Gulfstream and Belmont on the same date using the same criteria you did and here are the results betting top horse on odds line.

Gulfstream Park West

1-won 10.00
2-won 4.80
3-out
4-out
5-2nd
6-2nd
7-won 5.60
8-3rd
9-out
10-out

Belmont

1-out
2-out
3-3rd
4-out
5-out
6-out
7-out
8-out
9-out
10-out
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Old 10-14-2014, 05:41 PM   #38
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Yesterday at Santa Anita with settings of 6 pace lines, Distance Range= 1.5 and NO surface restrictions.

Looking at the Odds Line ONLY, TOP pick.

R1> $11.60
R2> OUT
R3> $11.80
R4> OUT
R5> SHOW
R6> $21.60
R7> A problem with file, wouldn't cap race 7.
R8> $10.60
R9> SHOW


I know, ONLY using the OL, isn't advocated, as the program has so much more to offer. BUT, these results aren't bad. And, NO, you won't get these results every day, on every track. But, then, what program would?
Those are the setting chosen by you, not the program default,right?
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Old 10-14-2014, 06:13 PM   #39
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the fellow on now the dufunct hurst web site stated he liked to go 4-5 default pace lines for recent races as the defult can go back 6-7 lines. i use 4 f difference and no surface restriction. i did notice when one uses default settings the odds lines col. has more seperation. it tosses runners either wrong surface or wrong distance. sprinter->route and turf->dirt.
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Old 10-14-2014, 06:44 PM   #40
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There is no such software where you can print the selections, rip it off the printer and head to the track! Only in our dreams! One small change in the settings could make your horse jump from 5th selection to 1st, be it number of PP lines , surface restriction, or distance restriction. You still have to get down there, get your hands dirty, and (hopefully)dig out the winner.

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Old 10-14-2014, 07:54 PM   #41
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There's a wise 87 year old man, living in Santa Barbara, sitting in front of his computer screen, sipping 12 year old scotch, laughing his ass off at how well he can still sell his product, saying absolutely nothing, on a paid website thread full of horseplayers, that's gone 40 posts too long.......
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Old 10-15-2014, 06:02 AM   #42
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I believe the results shown, by independent users, at the links at the beginning of this thread show that the question refers to why does it picks so many winners.
Actually I was hoping for an answer to the other question. CompuTrak is clearly a marketing success when you consider how many horse racing betting software programs have come and gone over the years it been around.
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