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01-22-2017, 12:53 PM
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THAT ANGLE
heres that angle again.....gps r1 #4
last race eased walked off
next race after 30 days....won pd 169.80
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01-22-2017, 01:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bugboy
heres that angle again.....gps r1 #4
last race eased walked off
next race after 30 days....won pd 169.80
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The first time someone mentioned that "eased last" angle...it sounded a little ridiculous. But I started to notice it happening...more and more.
Amazing. It used to be..a horse was eased up and walked off---he was done for awhile..maybe never the same, if he was any good to begin with.
Nowadays I believe it has much merit--the reason the horse was eased? Who cares?
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01-22-2017, 02:58 PM
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I think that I might have been the first one to talk about this angle here...but it wasn't my own creation. It was revealed to me by the most successful horseplayer that I've ever met.
I too laughed when I first heard it...but I've stopped laughing a long time ago.
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01-22-2017, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
I think that I might have been the first one to talk about this angle here...but it wasn't my own creation. It was revealed to me by the most successful horseplayer that I've ever met.
I too laughed when I first heard it...but I've stopped laughing a long time ago.
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I knew it was you thask--I remember it well..and thinking to myself "this guy's a professional horseplayer?"
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01-22-2017, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NorCalGreg
I knew it was you thask--I remember it well..and thinking to myself "this guy's a professional horseplayer?"
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Truth be told...you are not the only one who asked himself that question.
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01-22-2017, 04:12 PM
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The forty knot headwind in the stretch I think had more to do with it than anything else.
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01-22-2017, 09:16 PM
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01-23-2017, 02:12 PM
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It's an old angle, but clearly not one that's overplayed. Too hard to bet for serious money unless you're an insider. Or very brave.
It's all about how much people are prepared to actually bet, not talk.
That $90 winner the other day was given as a top play by Thorograph (paid) AND Matties (free online analysis).
So we have to assume there wasn't too much in the way of serious betting despite the public tout. If everyone that saw the pick's bet $10 , it wouldn't have payed $90
Last edited by AltonKelsey; 01-23-2017 at 02:17 PM.
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02-02-2017, 08:45 PM
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Beautiful Music pulled up and walked off 12-30-2016 at DED at 23-1.
Won the 5th race tonight @ DED at 8-1.
Guess people are getting hip.
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02-02-2017, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Prof.Factor
Beautiful Music pulled up and walked off 12-30-2016 at DED at 23-1.
Won the 5th race tonight @ DED at 8-1.
Guess people are getting hip.
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I imagine there's a big difference in win%/ROI if the horse walked off--as opposed to vanned off.
I'm seriously thinking of programming a spot play--not as an auto-bet, but just as an alert to this situation - when it arises.
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02-02-2017, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by NorCalGreg
I imagine there's a big difference in win%/ROI if the horse walked off--as opposed to vanned off.
I'm seriously thinking of programming a spot play--not as an auto-bet, but just as an alert to this situation - when it arises.
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When a horse is "vanned off"...then, a larger-than-normal wager is due next out...IMO.
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02-02-2017, 10:02 PM
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I used to see the meat wagon hit the track and if I had any doubt what had happened, I'd sprint down to the golf cart to follow them back to the barn to watch him unload and cool out from afar. Not only can you get a nice price on some horses, you can get a nice horse on the cheap. Just make sure you are claiming for yourself.
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02-03-2017, 01:55 PM
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Hard to play that angle at Delta - a lotta hosses are vanned and walked or otherwise helped off the track!
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02-03-2017, 05:19 PM
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THAT ANGLE almost hit at GP 9 today! walked off in last, going off 70-1 lost by a nose, had a $2 WPS $46 place $16 show.
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