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Old 01-21-2017, 10:11 PM   #76
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Bet 5 horses today and 4 of them won. Notes on bias, field strength and race-flow are paying off.


Had a nice win bet on Grad Bash in the 5th today, at a generous $10.60 to boot! I'm assuming he was one of your 4 winners.

Interesting that the P6 pool was scooped today for the second time this week.

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Old 01-21-2017, 10:51 PM   #77
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Had a nice win bet on Grad Bash in the 5th today, at a generous $10.60 to boot! I'm assuming he was one of your 4 winners.

Interesting that the P6 pool was scooped today for the second time this week.

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Bingo , vin. Troubled trip three-back..followed by career number.. then predictable regression at unsuitably long distance. Also felt element of early zip buried deep on horse's form might well resurface given how hot Gorham has been. Plus, the favorite had a perfect trip last start in a race that's proving unproductive.

Also hit 8th race winner (msw). Liked her debut, breeding, barn, and subsequent workout, while the prohibitive chalk up from GP had red-flags on form and paraded in new front wraps.

Apologies..make me 3 of 4 (not 4 of 5) on day. My other winner was No Holdem Poker in race 3. He had skipped a condition recently to set the pace and falter on a track that was killing speed.
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Old 01-21-2017, 11:28 PM   #78
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Bingo , vin. Troubled trip three-back..followed by career number.. then predictable regression at unsuitably long distance. Also felt element of early zip buried deep on horse's form might well resurface given how hot Gorham has been. Plus, the favorite had a perfect trip last start in a race that's proving unproductive.

Also hit 8th race winner (msw). Liked her debut, breeding, barn, and subsequent workout, while the prohibitive chalk up from GP had red-flags on form and paraded in new front wraps.

Apologies..make me 3 of 4 (not 4 of 5) on day. My other winner was No Holdem Poker in race 3. He had skipped a condition recently to set the pace and falter on a track that was killing speed.


Interesting observation on the GP shipper's new front wraps. He sure loomed huge on the turn and I'm waiting for him to open up by a pole to collect my $10 DD payoff. The bridgejumpers sure dodged a bullet on that one.

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Old 01-21-2017, 11:38 PM   #79
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Interesting observation on the GP shipper's new front wraps. He sure loomed huge on the turn and I'm waiting for him to open up by a pole to collect my $10 DD payoff. The bridgejumpers sure dodged a bullet on that one.

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I didn't like her losing as fave last two starts at the bigs. It tied in with the new fronts. And Doug Cowans, as great as he's been over the last decade, seems decidedly more human these days.

Where are you from, pal? What's your line of work?

If this thread were to stir more interest in Mahoning, I would probably post my bias notes as a service to fellow board members. But I don't get the feeling that Austintown is high priority to players here on PA.

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Old 01-21-2017, 11:42 PM   #80
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I just checked the last race WPS pools, which are still up on BRIS Supertote. There was $106,523 bet to show on Coldgreydawn out of a total show pool of $113,598. Yikes.

Would the bettor(s) have collected $2.20 to show on him at the Mountain? Would MNR or in this case, MVR, send a bill to the sending track/ADW for any loss to the track via the minus pool?

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Yes, 2.20. And the adw/ simulcast outlet through which the bet is placed stands responsible for minus pools. That's one reason Mnr does not encourage me to recommend specific bridge jumps. Even though it ostensibly boosts our handle.

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everyone makes a big deal about front wraps the first time because horses tend to underperform with them. i always note them and play the horse second time wraps.. you get a better price and the horse has experience with them on now.
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everyone makes a big deal about front wraps the first time because horses tend to underperform with them. i always note them and play the horse second time wraps.. you get a better price and the horse has experience with them on now.


To me...it's not what the wraps DO, it's what they imply about the horse. Especially a horse with other red flags.
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Apologies..make me 3 of 4 (not 4 of 5) on day. My other winner was No Holdem Poker in race 3. He had skipped a condition recently to set the pace and falter on a track that was killing speed.


I'll take an educated guess that the only bet you missed on was #8 Jacopotamus in Race 7. He was coming out of a race on Dec. 20 where he stumbled from Post #11. Wide posts didn't fare well that day. He got slammed at the start Saturday and had no chance again. BTW, I had 4-8 boxed till the cows came home.

http://www.equibase.com/premium/cha...017&cy=USA&rn=7

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I'll take an educated guess that the only bet you missed on was #8 Jacopotamus in Race 7. He was coming out of a race on Dec. 20 where he stumbled from Post #11. Wide posts didn't fare well that day. He got slammed at the start Saturday and had no chance again. BTW, I had 4-8 boxed till the cows came home.

http://www.equibase.com/premium/cha...017&cy=USA&rn=7

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Liked him, too..partly because Academic Affair is soooo phony. We think somewhat alike, Ron. Which doesn't bode well for you..lol.

McGary must have stomach flu? I had it 5 weeks ago, and for 44 hours (I counted them) I wanted to die.
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Liked him, too..partly because Academic Affair is soooo phony. We think somewhat alike, Ron. Which doesn't bode well for you..lol.

McGary must have stomach flu? I had it 5 weeks ago, and for 44 hours (I counted them) I wanted to die.


John (McGary) was very ill when I spoke to him Wednesday night. I was under the weather myself all week with a bad cold. Lots of people around MVR have been ill these past 2 weeks. Matt Hook did a fine job filling in for John.

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John (McGary) was very ill when I spoke to him Wednesday night. I was under the weather myself all week with a bad cold. Lots of people around MVR have been ill these past 2 weeks. Matt Hook did a fine job filling in for John.

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Sorry you were sick. ron. But as to other Mahoning employees, it would be difficult to tell, since behind those forced smiles they look like they are being held hostage. I half expect one of the tellers to blink out "help me" in morse code. It's creepy. Flat out creepy.

And the security guys in those yellow coats don't BUDGE when they are blocking your path. Clearly, they see their role as more important than that of patron. It's a very tense place.

I'm sure not holding my breath until a conga line forms...

btw..totally agree about hook's announcing. And he's quite the handicapper and all around wise guy, as well.

And fwiw...I did have the footing pro-rail on dec 20.

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Sorry you were sick. ron. But as to other Mahoning employees, it would be difficult to tell, since behind those forced smiles they look like they are being held hostage. I half expect one of the tellers to blink out "help me" in morse code. It's creepy. Flat out creepy.

And the security guys in those yellow coats don't BUDGE when they are blocking your path. Clearly, they see their role as more important than that of patron. It's a very tense place.


OMG you've actually motivated me to want to take a drive out there to check this out ! Blink out HELP ME in Morse code! I LOVE it!
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