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illinoisbred · 03-16-2013, 08:32 AM

Hawthorne did have their 1st 2 million + handle of the meet yesterday. Can't say I could see that coming,not off the poor depth of yesterday's card. Only 8 races tomorrow,and entries came out very late,suggesting they had difficulty just getting 8 to fill.

olddaddy · 03-27-2013, 04:35 PM

Well Illinois basically lost 2 of their biggest ADW handle meets, Santa Anita ,Gulfstream and the Derby prep races. Now on to Keenland and Derby day. Great job illinois legislature, keep up the good work.

And yea, I keep calling my reps and writing them and its just like fartin in the wind.

betovernetcapper · 03-27-2013, 07:01 PM

It seems the tracks and casinos have heard our pleas and while they are not offering ADWs, they may allow us to bet slots and such online, provided they are owned by an Illinois track or casino. Such largess.

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/2...interstitial=1

I for one am boycotting all Illinois race tracks, including the Illinois Derby and the Arlington Million. It's a tiny gesture, but I find it soothing.

olddaddy · 03-28-2013, 02:12 AM

I have boycotted illinois tracks and otbs. It is a small gesture by myself also and may be hurting the sport I love but I really dont know what else to do at this point.

betovernetcapper · 03-28-2013, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by olddaddy

I have boycotted illinois tracks and otbs. It is a small gesture by myself also and may be hurting the sport I love but I really dont know what else to do at this point.

I'm also boycotting Illinois products as much as possible. Did you know that in NYC there is no tax on clothing, while in Chicago it's 10%? I'm considering taking up smoking so I can cross the border and buy cigarettes in Indiana. If I believed in God, I'd put a note in the collection plate that I saving my donations until the ADW issue was resolved. When my membership in the Art Institute is up, I'll be sending them a note saying they can get by without my support until I get my ADW. Screw Illinois. No gesture is too small or petty.

illinoisbred · 03-28-2013, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by betovernetcapper

I'm also boycotting Illinois products as much as possible. Did you know that in NYC there is no tax on clothing, while in Chicago it's 10%? I'm considering taking up smoking so I can cross the border and buy cigarettes in Indiana. If I believed in God, I'd put a note in the collection plate that I saving my donations until the ADW issue was resolved. When my membership in the Art Institute is up, I'll be sending them a note saying they can get by without my support until I get my ADW. Screw Illinois. No gesture is too small or petty.

In Chicago..a 23% tobacco tax and 9.50% sales tax to top things off.

Striker · 03-28-2013, 01:40 PM

Rumors of more upcoming problems between Arlington and everyone they deal with(IRB, ITHA, ITBOF) could possibly cause more problems for us bettors, specifically with simulcasting. I live only 20-30 minutes from the Wisconsin border so it might be time to go to Potawatomi Casino to bet on the horses if need be.

olddaddy · 03-28-2013, 01:53 PM

I know they all have different agendas but the ADWs really piss me off. At least pretend that they care and are doing something. Not one email since I was cut off, really bad business practices.

illinoisbred · 03-28-2013, 02:18 PM

Here's the day to day comparisions from 2012-2013 on handle at Hawthorne per the equibase charts. All are rounded to the closest 1,000.Do you think anyone is looking at these numbers?
Day 1 -487,000 in 2013
Day 2...no handle provided in 2013
Day 3 -1,100,000 in 2013
Day 4 -694,000 in 2013
Day 5 -494,000 in 2013
Day 6 -622,000 in 2013
Day 7 -3,000 in 2013
Day 8 +100,000 in 2013
Day 9 -355,000 in 2013
Day 10 +13,000 in 2013
Day 11 -425,000 in 2013
Day 12 -49,000 in 2013
Day 13 -138,000 in 2013
Day 14 -420,000 in 2013
Day 15 +166,000 in 2013
Day 16 -426,000 in 2013
Day 17 -415,000 in 2013
Day 18 -572,000 in 2013
Day 19 -67,000 in 2013
Day 20 +92,000 in 2013
Day 21 +69,000 in 2013
Day 22 -372,000 in 2013
These are friday to friday,saturday to saturday,sunday to sunday,and wednesday to wednesday comparisions.

betovernetcapper · 03-28-2013, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by olddaddy

I know they all have different agendas but the ADWs really piss me off. At least pretend that they care and are doing something. Not one email since I was cut off, really bad business practices.

In their defense, it's probable that they have been advised not to have any contact with Illinois residents by their lawyers or the Oregon Racing Commission. I don't know this for a fact, but seems reasonable.

betovernetcapper · 03-28-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by illinoisbred

Here's the day to day comparisions from 2012-2013 on handle at Hawthorne per the equibase charts. All are rounded to the closest 1,000.Do you think anyone is looking at these numbers?
Day 1 -487,000 in 2013
Day 2...no handle provided in 2013
Day 3 -1,100,000 in 2013
Day 4 -694,000 in 2013
Day 5 -494,000 in 2013
Day 6 -622,000 in 2013
Day 7 -3,000 in 2013
Day 8 +100,000 in 2013
Day 9 -355,000 in 2013
Day 10 +13,000 in 2013
Day 11 -425,000 in 2013
Day 12 -49,000 in 2013
Day 13 -138,000 in 2013
Day 14 -420,000 in 2013
Day 15 +166,000 in 2013
Day 16 -426,000 in 2013
Day 17 -415,000 in 2013
Day 18 -572,000 in 2013
Day 19 -67,000 in 2013
Day 20 +92,000 in 2013
Day 21 +69,000 in 2013
Day 22 -372,000 in 2013
These are friday to friday,saturday to saturday,sunday to sunday,and wednesday to wednesday comparisions.

If you don't mind, I'd like to cut and paste this to Pat Quinn.

olddaddy · 03-28-2013, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by illinoisbred

Here's the day to day comparisions from 2012-2013 on handle at Hawthorne per the equibase charts. All are rounded to the closest 1,000.Do you think anyone is looking at these numbers?
Day 1 -487,000 in 2013
Day 2...no handle provided in 2013
Day 3 -1,100,000 in 2013
Day 4 -694,000 in 2013
Day 5 -494,000 in 2013
Day 6 -622,000 in 2013
Day 7 -3,000 in 2013
Day 8 +100,000 in 2013
Day 9 -355,000 in 2013
Day 10 +13,000 in 2013
Day 11 -425,000 in 2013
Day 12 -49,000 in 2013
Day 13 -138,000 in 2013
Day 14 -420,000 in 2013
Day 15 +166,000 in 2013
Day 16 -426,000 in 2013
Day 17 -415,000 in 2013
Day 18 -572,000 in 2013
Day 19 -67,000 in 2013
Day 20 +92,000 in 2013
Day 21 +69,000 in 2013
Day 22 -372,000 in 2013
These are friday to friday,saturday to saturday,sunday to sunday,and wednesday to wednesday comparisions.

If you dont mind I'd like to send it to my reps, who have shit for brains and dont give a shit but what the hell.

illinoisbred · 03-28-2013, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by olddaddy

If you dont mind I'd like to send it to my reps, who have shit for brains and dont give a shit but what the hell.

Can't hurt..probably won't help. I really don't think this will be resolved soon. It will be interesting to see if there's any movement once Arlington opens. Some deeper pockets for the state slimeballs to pick or probe.

goforgin · 03-29-2013, 08:15 AM

Sent emails to two state reps and our IL U.S. rep. Guessing since it's Spring break and all that they'll get back to me next week. Maybe their having computer system problems. But, quite sure they'll get back to me shortly.

Hoofless_Wonder · 04-18-2013, 03:45 PM

Possible movement on this issue, according to one of the horse racing threads on the RX Forum.

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=954296

Includes an email from the IRB executive director that HB0620 is supposedly moving forward. However, looking at the General Assembly's web site, there's not much info on that bill and nothing recent. But, it was proposed by Madigan, which is a plus, since he runs the state......

Fingers crossed, as the OTB is not a pleasant alternative.