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07-02-2018, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by RunForTheRoses
Excellent points.
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Yes, they are. Plus, how can serial liars be considered friends of the people to whom they're lying? Trump's characterization of journalists, generally, is right on the mark.
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07-02-2018, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Yes, they are. Plus, how can serial liars be considered friends of the people to whom they're lying? Trump's characterization of journalists, generally, is right on the mark.
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The media is extremely guilty of lying by omission, that is their favorite game.
Not only by how they often tell one side of the story by leaving out important facts, they also pick and choose what stories to cover due to their bias.
If you watch ABC national news you would think a cop never killed a white suspect or a minority ever committed an act of racism.
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07-02-2018, 12:05 PM
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Journalism by Fox and Breitbart, are not exactly accurate.
Both are "MAGAphones".
https://www.toptenz.net/10-reliable-news-sources.php#
10 Most Reliable News Sources
10. Wall Street Journal
9. New York Times
8. BBC
7. NPR
6. Snopes
5. Reuters
4. The Economist
3. PBS
2. C-SPAN
1. The Associated Press
Finding credible news: What makes journalism reliable?
http://salve.libguides.com/c.php?g=590921&p=4098864
...Journalism is a field with standards and a code of conduct. The Society of Professional Journalists has a code of ethics, which includes these four principles:
Seek Truth and Report It
Ethical journalism should be accurate and fair. Journalists should be honest and courageous in gathering, reporting and interpreting information.
Be Accountable and Transparent.
You gents suck up; Big Orange Brother and his clumsy version of Newspeak.
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07-02-2018, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
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Oh, lookie here!
A CHART!
I must be right- I graphed it!
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07-02-2018, 12:28 PM
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History repeating itself
The MSM and journalists are "enemies of the people".
Hitler and Mussolini thought so, too.
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07-02-2018, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by horses4courses
The MSM and journalists are "enemies of the people".
Hitler and Mussolini thought so, too.
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Mainstream media exposed a bunch of US government wrongdoings. Why is the fake news form the MAGAphones sources parroting the orange turd more trustworthy than PBS and the Wall Street Journal this time?
Last edited by hcap; 07-02-2018 at 12:35 PM.
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07-02-2018, 12:35 PM
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Yes, but the MSM in Germany was Goebbels. So it was.
Our MSM is closer to Goebbels than anything.
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07-02-2018, 12:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by horses4courses
The MSM and journalists are "enemies of the people".
Hitler and Mussolini thought so, too.
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That was a different place and time, before liberal bias spread through the media and education system in the USA like aggressive cancer. Your comparison does not apply now in the least.
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07-02-2018, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Inner Dirt
That was a different place and time, before liberal bias spread through the media and education system in the USA like aggressive cancer. Your comparison does not apply now in the least.
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Are you saying all the sources I listed in post #18 are less accurate then Faux Noos and Dumbart?
Let's take just these:
10. Wall Street Journal
9. New York Times
8. BBC
7. NPR
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07-02-2018, 05:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hcap
Journalism by Fox and Breitbart, are not exactly accurate.
Both are "MAGAphones".
https://www.toptenz.net/10-reliable-news-sources.php#
10 Most Reliable News Sources
10. Wall Street Journal
9. New York Times
8. BBC
7. NPR
6. Snopes
5. Reuters
4. The Economist
3. PBS
2. C-SPAN
1. The Associated Press
Finding credible news: What makes journalism reliable?
http://salve.libguides.com/c.php?g=590921&p=4098864
...Journalism is a field with standards and a code of conduct. The Society of Professional Journalists has a code of ethics, which includes these four principles:
Seek Truth and Report It
Ethical journalism should be accurate and fair. Journalists should be honest and courageous in gathering, reporting and interpreting information.
Be Accountable and Transparent.
You gents suck up; Big Orange Brother and his clumsy version of Newspeak.
https://youtu.be/cSKGa_7XJkg |
LOL toptenz.net. You be getting yo shit from some top shelf websites.
I see number 4 on the list is The economist yet you had nothing to say about this:
http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...d.php?t=145642
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07-02-2018, 07:18 PM
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What, we’re supposed to lower the flag for our enemies now?
#winning #MAGA
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07-02-2018, 07:29 PM
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I know you must have thoroughly researched this issue so did the flag fly at half mast after say this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartfo...utors_shooting
Just curious.
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07-02-2018, 08:39 PM
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gelding
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Originally Posted by RunForTheRoses
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I don’t know, did it? That link says nothing about it, so I’m not sure why you shared it..
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07-03-2018, 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by RunForTheRoses
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Climate change denial is the original "fake news " issue proclaimed by conspiracy theorists. There is no doubt that peer review is not perfect, but it does allow fellow researchers to make some judgment about the relative quality and merit of the research covered by one paper.
And it is much more accurate than making stuff up as the right is apt to do.
As far as climate change, there are other scientific methods to support the consensus. For instance,
https://www.skepticalscience.com/glo...termediate.htm
You took one of the news sources I listed that points out problems in peer review as a diversion. Hover using all these sources for political judgement is very different than scientific judgement, and the consensus is the Trump administration is rightfully under investigation.
For by far the worse wrongdoings that I can remember.
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