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10-10-2017, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
CHRB.....Certifiable morons!
Hey, we only mis-timed 6 races last week - that's what, about 1%?
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Hey Tom, use your stopwatch to see how long it takes me to figure out the % of incorrectly timed races.
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10-10-2017, 06:14 PM
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#32
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6 / 44 = Sorry it is taking so long, i have to remove my shoes and socks.... Got it! %1
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10-10-2017, 06:28 PM
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Tom had it in 22.00 44.00 66.00
Trackus reported it as 19.00 46.00 68.00.
CJ Can you use your video software and figure out who was right?
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10-10-2017, 11:09 PM
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Why is Trakus wrong & CJ right?
If the Trakus system is working, but the tracks are misusing the info, how is that a Trakus problem? Remember, CJ has a vested interest in Timeform.
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10-10-2017, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by gillenr
If the Trakus system is working, but the tracks are misusing the info, how is that a Trakus problem? Remember, CJ has a vested interest in Timeform.
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The Trakus system is not working, that is the problem.
I'm not sure what my being the speed figure maker for TimeformUS has to do with Trakus working or not. We don't time races and aren't trying to time races. I just do it when I see problems.
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10-10-2017, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by gillenr
If the Trakus system is working, but the tracks are misusing the info, how is that a Trakus problem? Remember, CJ has a vested interest in Timeform.
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Is it too much to ask regardless that as a player I get the correct information?
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10-10-2017, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by gillenr
If the Trakus system is working, but the tracks are misusing the info, how is that a Trakus problem? Remember, CJ has a vested interest in Timeform.
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Normally i would call you a clown, but i'm not going to do that today.
You really need to spend an afternoon watching the Turf races at Woodbine.
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10-11-2017, 12:13 AM
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Just another Facist
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Originally Posted by GMB@BP
Is it too much to ask regardless that as a player I get the correct information?
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In no other sport is the info more important, and they could care less
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10-11-2017, 12:26 AM
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#39
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At the height of dysfunction like this aren't the tracks pulling a Kevin Bacon in Animal House "All is well"? Equally amusing and pathetic anyway!
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10-11-2017, 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
In no other sport is the info more important, and they could care less
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While human athletes are timed in thousands-of-a-second...their equine counterparts, who run TWICE as fast...were timed in FIFTHS of a second until a couple of years ago. The equivalent of a cocaine dealer using a grocery-store scale to weigh his product.
Of course, if the tracks had it their way...they wouldn't time the races at all. The only "calculation" that the racetrack is interested in is the takeout withholding. And then they wonder why they need casinos in order to survive.
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10-11-2017, 04:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gillenr
If the Trakus system is working, but the tracks are misusing the info, how is that a Trakus problem? Remember, CJ has a vested interest in Timeform.
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i know nothing of timeform have no vested interests in anything,and i can tell you that in my opinion, trakus has been crapola forever basically.
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10-11-2017, 08:56 AM
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#42
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Trakus and the alternative one the Longines Timing system (used at some Australian tracks) are both gimmicks
Race tracks are crazy for wasting money on these timing systems as the info provided is massive overkill anyways even if it were correct (and I agree the info is too often wrong)
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10-11-2017, 01:04 PM
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#43
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Originally Posted by Seabiscuit@AR
Trakus and the alternative one the Longines Timing system (used at some Australian tracks) are both gimmicks
Race tracks are crazy for wasting money on these timing systems as the info provided is massive overkill anyways even if it were correct (and I agree the info is too often wrong)
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The current past-performance charts are still created by men with binoculars who call out the ongoing race to an assistant while stationed at a fixed point...and you call the accurate timing information of these races a "massive overkill"?
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10-11-2017, 03:11 PM
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I miss Cratos trying his best to defend Trakus.
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10-11-2017, 03:37 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
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http://www.drf.com/news/beyer-santa-...stakes-revised
The comments from the Trakus representative are downright laughable.
I posted this at Derby Trail but will repeat hear as well:
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I will never give up with bad timing. I probably talk too much on other subjects and should put a sock in it at times, but never this one. Bettors deserve to have races timed accurately and to know the exact distance of the race. That shouldn't be too much to ask. I'm tired of tracks circling the wagons, like that silly press release, and pretending I don't know what I'm talking about.
If I say publicly a race was mistimed, you can be damn sure I've done my homework before saying it. The biggest problem the timing companies have now (and this isn't just Trakus) is that they don't know when they had a problem in many cases. They don't have the expertise to know that 1:08.68 for the Santa Anita Sprint Championship was worth investigating on that slow track.
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Last edited by cj; 10-11-2017 at 03:38 PM.
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