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05-14-2013, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by tucker6
Holder did a great Sgt Schultz impression this afternoon about just about everything. Just waiting for the press to dredge up Fast and Furious again for all to see. If BO doesn't cut Holder, he's an idiot. The GOP will have a field day next year running against the anti-civil liberty/lawless of the Dems. Asking for the voters to not give both houses to BO will lead to a massacre at the polls.
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What are you predicting/saying here?
Agree with you on Holder - disgraceful.
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05-14-2013, 04:48 PM
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What are you predicting/saying here?
Agree with you on Holder - disgraceful.
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sorry, very poorly worded. I'm predicting that if BO allows the GOP to use these transgressions as talking points because he failed to stem the damage (fire Holder, etc), it will be a massacre against the Dems next year. The GOP will use these issues with voters and ask that they allow the GOP to be the watchdog of the BO admin during his final two years since he is not policing his admin himself.
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05-14-2013, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tucker6
I'm predicting that if BO allows the GOP to use these transgressions as talking points because he failed to stem the damage (fire Holder, etc), it will be a massacre against the Dems next year.
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I've yet to see anything that would give an entitlement voter cause to abandon their base.
Now, when they start feeling the effects of the PPACA...
Different story. 
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05-14-2013, 05:42 PM
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I've yet to see anything that would give an entitlement voter cause to abandon their base.
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totally agree
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05-14-2013, 05:44 PM
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I've yet to see anything that would give an entitlement voter cause to abandon their base.
Now, when they start feeling the effects of the PPACA...
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In an off year election, fewer entitlement voters vote IMHO. It's really about energizing the base in a Congressional year, and issues like these tend to both energize the GOP and demoralize the Dems. Every Dem I know but a few of the more insane are just as disgusted by these allegations as we are.
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05-14-2013, 05:57 PM
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I've yet to see anything that would give an entitlement voter cause to abandon their base.
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Right on.........
But crippling Obama with scandals will be very satisfying and fruitful.
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05-14-2013, 06:21 PM
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Right on.........
But crippling Obama with scandals will be very satisfying and fruitful.
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I don't think this IRS thing will prove fruitful as I don't believe anyone in the administration would be stupid enough to contact the agency. Maybe the WH wants congress to focus on this and away from Benghazi?
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05-14-2013, 06:24 PM
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To borrow from Thomas Paine, "These are the times that try men's souls.".
If it were just Eric Holder it would be one thing, but the much larger problem is that the President has surrounded himself with people who are no better than himself. Some may call Eric Holder an idiot, but the truth is that a true leader surrounds himself with several who are a genuine phoenix's in their own right. Currently not a one in the lot, in my mind Eric Holder does not hold that title because the buck stops at the top.
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05-14-2013, 06:41 PM
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The worm is turning
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05-14-2013, 07:19 PM
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But crippling Obama with scandals will be very satisfying and fruitful.
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What about governing the country? Does his oppostion have any stomach at all for that or will there just be a vacuum? Your statement proves every single liberal talking point that's out there, namely, that the entire raison d'etre for those not in power is to crush those that are in power. "Screw the country, full speed ahead."
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05-14-2013, 07:43 PM
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To borrow from Thomas Paine, "These are the times that try men's souls.".
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That works for men who have souls.. Politicians on the other hand....
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05-14-2013, 08:46 PM
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... that the entire raison d'etre for those not in power is to crush those that are in power. "Screw the country, full speed ahead."
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Wasn't that the Dems' playbook in the Bush years? Not saying it's right or wrong, just that's the way it is, and it didn't stop Dems from winning impending elections.
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05-14-2013, 08:59 PM
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What about governing the country? Does his oppostion have any stomach at all for that or will there just be a vacuum? Your statement proves every single liberal talking point that's out there, namely, that the entire raison d'etre for those not in power is to crush those that are in power. "Screw the country, full speed ahead."
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Bottom line, if BOTH parties stop trying to govern the country, we will ALL be better off.
Neither is capable of doing it, just get the hell out of our way. The dems are digging us into a hole we may never get out of, we have no viable foreign policy, we deny terrorism.......yes, SAVE the country, full speed ahead - stop Obama in EVERYTHING he wants so to do. All he has done so far is fail.....
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05-14-2013, 09:04 PM
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Wasn't that the Dems' playbook in the Bush years? Not saying it's right or wrong, just that's the way it is, and it didn't stop Dems from winning impending elections.
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Right on!
The surge would never work, our troops were criminals, Murtha-burn in hell you mutha - disgraced himself labeling our troops as murderers, Dingy Harry Reid publicly doubted our troops in a time of war, Abu Grad was used to disparage our troops - no matter what, democrats turn my stomach. They are not fit to lead, not fit to even live here. We would better off if all democrats were rounded up and exiled.
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05-14-2013, 09:28 PM
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Isn't it amazing how Obama is the President of the United States, and he is pretty much oblivious to EVERYTHING that goes on around him?
Isn't that a sign of stupidity? 
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Fast and Furious, Benghazi, Fort Hood, the IRS, now the AP phone records.....this buffoon is so oblivious to everything, why do we pay him?
Only three people worse than he is....mostie, Robert, and Carney!
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