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Old 05-13-2013, 02:55 AM   #31
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IRS kept shifting targets in tax-exempt groups scrutiny: report

(Reuters) - When tax agents started singling out non-profit groups for extra scrutiny in 2010, they looked at first only for key words such as 'Tea Party,' but later they focused on criticisms by groups of "how the country is being run," according to investigative findings reviewed by Reuters on Sunday.


Probably just a coinkidink:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...94C03N20130513
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Old 05-13-2013, 06:47 AM   #32
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I think Goren is just keeping the seat warm until the postmaster and the IRS agent himself get their talking points from the mothership in working order. This is gonna be a tough one for them.
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Old 05-13-2013, 08:22 AM   #33
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where is the ACLU on this matter? they are supposed to be protecting us from the inequity's in the system. this is very egregious. this is why the ACLU exists, this deal is nothing short of TIERENY
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Old 05-13-2013, 10:34 AM   #34
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IRS Scandal

lamboguy, I don't have a link for you, but I'm pretty sure I heard several news reports over the weekend stating that the ACLU is as outraged as every right-thinking American should be over this issue, and has spoken out ccritically about it.
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Old 05-13-2013, 10:38 AM   #35
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lamboguy, I don't have a link for you, but I'm pretty sure I heard several news reports over the weekend stating that the ACLU is as outraged as every right-thinking American should be over this issue, and has spoken out ccritically about it.
Yup.

"The left is not trying to hide from a story they know they can’t hide from. The ACLU is condemning the IRS, with the chief of staff at their Washington Legislative Office saying, “Even the appearance of playing partisan politics with the tax code is about as constitutionally troubling as it gets.” And Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein (CA) said on NBC television on Sunday that “I think we have to understand why” the IRS “would give extra scrutiny” to conservative groups. Not exactly righteous indignation, but not the stonewalling we’ve come to expect from Democrats when it comes to Obama administration failures."

http://spectator.org/archives/2013/0...h-for-tea-part
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Old 05-13-2013, 10:42 AM   #36
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Yup.

"The left is not trying to hide from a story they know they can’t hide from. The ACLU is condemning the IRS, with the chief of staff at their Washington Legislative Office saying, “Even the appearance of playing partisan politics with the tax code is about as constitutionally troubling as it gets.” And Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein (CA) said on NBC television on Sunday that “I think we have to understand why” the IRS “would give extra scrutiny” to conservative groups. Not exactly righteous indignation, but not the stonewalling we’ve come to expect from Democrats when it comes to Obama administration failures."

http://spectator.org/archives/2013/0...h-for-tea-part
She doesn't understand the "why" - wow.

Good article on the front page of today's WSJ - note to Goren: don't read it, then you'd be informed.
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Old 05-13-2013, 03:12 PM   #37
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Another good article in the WP.


The thought by the IRS is the right one: Group like things so they all get judged by the same standard. Of course, when you start singling out individual groups based on their names or their stated missions, you veer from the right idea into the wrong one.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...rs-as-a-group/
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Old 05-13-2013, 03:52 PM   #38
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Become a liberal and you won't have to worry about this .... at least until a conservative is elected president.
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Old 05-13-2013, 04:36 PM   #39
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(Reuters) - When tax agents started singling out non-profit groups for extra scrutiny in 2010, they looked at first only for key words such as 'Tea Party,' but later they focused on criticisms by groups of "how the country is being run," according to investigative findings reviewed by Reuters on Sunday.


Probably just a coinkidink:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...94C03N20130513
According to Conservatives, the Obama administration ordered the IRS to target conservative organizations and deny them tax exempt status. According to the story which you linked to above, none of this was true. From the Reuters story.
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At a legal conference in Washington, while taking questions from the audience, Lerner said the agency was sorry.

She said the screening practice was confined to an IRS office in Cincinnati; that it was "absolutely not" influenced by the Obama administration; and that none of the targeted groups was denied tax-free status.
This is quite different from when Nixon targeted individuals he considered his enemies. In that case they were threatened with audits and possible prosecution. In this case the groups were given increased scrutiny, but none of them were denied tax exempt status.
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Old 05-13-2013, 04:41 PM   #40
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Who cares......

All the IRS agents in Cincy are just actors
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Old 05-13-2013, 04:45 PM   #41
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Hey Mostie, I guess this was just "low level" employees too

http://apne.ws/15GBzx9

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Old 05-13-2013, 05:38 PM   #42
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Who cares......

All the IRS agents in Cincy are just actors
Don't misunderstand. I'm not defending the actions of those who gave unfavorable treatment to conservative groups. I object to it being characterized as a deliberate plan orchestrated by the Obama administration.

I also do not understand why a political organization like the Tea Party should be tax exempt. Or any political organization. The rules state that such organizations can not participate in political campaigns, but may comment on policy. It seems a distinction without a difference. Repeatedly saying you are opposed to Obamacare, think Benghazi is a coverup, and oppose background checks is pretty much the same as saying vote for Romney, don't vote for Obama.
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Hey Mostie, I guess this was just "low level" employees too

http://apne.ws/15GBzx9

These guys are the Chicago mafia east.

Stop posting over sized images that screw up the page. It is so annoying.
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It's all beginning to unravel...

Will have to revive the Obama Job Approval thread here pretty soon.
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Stop posting over sized images that screw up the page. It is so annoying.

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