View Poll Results: Which book(s) would you recommend to a Newbie" Up to 3
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Picking Winners: A Horseplayer's Guide by Andrew Beyer 1994
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22.00% |
Betting on Horse Racing For Dummies by Richard Eng
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6 |
6.00% |
The Winning Horseplayer by Andrew Beyer 2007
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8.00% |
Betting Thoroughbreds by Steven Davidovitz and Andrew Beyer 1997
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16 |
16.00% |
Exotic Betting by Steven Crist 2006
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13 |
13.00% |
Bet With the Best by Andrew Beyer and Steve Davidowitz 2001
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4 |
4.00% |
Getting the Best of It by David Sklansky 1997
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2 |
2.00% |
How to WIN the PICK 6 by Steven Kolb 2009
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1 |
1.00% |
Betting Thoroughbreds for the 21st Century by Steve Davidowitz and Steven Crist 2009
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10 |
10.00% |
Finding The Hidden Horse: Tips, tricks, angles and secrets by William Davidson 2017
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2 |
2.00% |
The Blood-Horse Authoritative Guide to Betting Thorougbreds by the Blood-Horse staff 2005
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1 |
1.00% |
Profitable Horse Race Betting Using Stock Market Techniques by Aaron Ainslie and Woodbine Mike 2015
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Secrets of Professional Turf Betting by Robert L Bacon 1952
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1 |
1.00% |
Commonsense Betting by Dick Mitchell 1995
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7 |
7.00% |
Overlay, Overlay by Bill Heller 2004
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Thoroughbred Cycles by Mark Cramer 1990
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15 |
15.00% |
Handicapping 101 by Brad Free 2004
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15 |
15.00% |
Complete Idiot's Guide to Betting on Horses by Sharon B. Smith 1998
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0% |
Beyer on Speed by Andrew Beyer 2012
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12 |
12.00% |
Trifecta: The Business of Betting Thoroughbreds by Bobby Zen 2012
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Finding an Edge: A 21st century book by Ron Loftus 2014
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1 |
1.00% |
Winning without Thinking by Nick Mordin 2002
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3 |
3.00% |
Six Secrets of Successful Bettors by Frank R. Scatoni and Peter Thomas Fornatale 2005
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10 |
10.00% |
Money Secrets At The Racetrack Paperback by Barry Meadow 2000
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17 |
17.00% |
Smarter Bets - The Exacta Way by Keith Hoffman 2013
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Betting Maidens and 2-Year-Olds by Dan Illman 2005
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1 |
1.00% |
Winning Horseracing Handicapping by Chuck Badone 1999
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1 |
1.00% |
The Power of Early Speed by Steve Klein 2005
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4 |
4.00% |
Modern Pace Handicapping by Tom Brohamer 2000
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25 |
25.00% |
None, just go to the track.
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4 |
4.00% |
None, all are outdated
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8 |
8.00% |
Other (please specify)
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20 |
20.00% |
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11-05-2017, 11:11 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 930
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Handicapping Magic
by Michael Pizzolla (Author)
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11-06-2017, 04:01 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 621
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Ainslie
How can you not include Ainslie's Complete Guide to Thoroughbred Racing?????
Or ANY of his other books.
Why list Andy Beyer at the top of the list?
He's going to get extra votes just for that.
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11-06-2017, 04:22 PM
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#33
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Cincinnati,Ohio
Posts: 5,289
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I picked Beyer as much for his insight into the game and because I like his stories and actually has some literary skill! I like Quinn because he has an intense grasp on the game and writes like they are textbooks. I wish Beyer would write a big fat 1,000 pager on just racetrack experiences. I know he's got it in him! Andy whatta ya say brother?!
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11-06-2017, 04:23 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Cincinnati,Ohio
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Originally Posted by SandyW
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Sandy this is a great book. His turf thoughts which are few I don't agree with but applying the fulcrum concept to turf races more than any exposes pretenders. It was my saving grace at Saratoga!
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11-06-2017, 05:55 PM
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regular user
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 37,506
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For newbies and oldies
How To Win At The Race$ by Sam(the Genius)Lewin -1969-
and The War of Art by Steven Pressfield -2002-
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11-06-2017, 09:38 PM
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#36
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2006
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One book that I WOULD'T recommend to a newcomer is Beyer's PICKING WINNERS. The notion that the Beyer figures are "the Way, the Truth and the Light", while class and pace have "nothing to do" with the race-results that we see...could cause irreversible damage to the novice player's bankroll.
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11-06-2017, 10:28 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Long Island, NY
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Ainslie's Complete Guide to Thoroughbred Racing gets the nod from me.
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11-07-2017, 07:38 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 4,285
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
One book that I WOULD'T recommend to a newcomer is Beyer's PICKING WINNERS. The notion that the Beyer figures are "the Way, the Truth and the Light", while class and pace have "nothing to do" with the race-results that we see...could cause irreversible damage to the novice player's bankroll.
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I have known some very successful figure players who ignore the pace and class.
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11-07-2017, 09:06 PM
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#39
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Posts: 28,551
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyC
I have known some very successful figure players who ignore the pace and class.
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They must have trainers like the late Bobby Frankel whispering in their ears.
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11-08-2017, 07:09 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: uk
Posts: 374
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael
Ainslie's Complete Guide to Thoroughbred Racing gets the nod from me.
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me too
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11-09-2017, 11:59 AM
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
Posts: 52,787
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMB@BP
I feel like in the world of super trainers, rebates, contests, drugs, etc that a lot of those older books have fallen by the way side.
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Very diplomatic. You’re exactly right 👍
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11-12-2017, 05:57 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Cincinnati,Ohio
Posts: 5,289
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All those books are great for basic handicapping. Didn't we all run out of books for the most part before we realized that there was slim pickins on being a great bettor? Many of the handicappers confessed that they didn't play much. Targeting a meet or two per year. Learning the landscape of available tracks and times and where you are good or bad and having something to sink your teeth into regularly during different seasons of the year is huge too. When I first got on here I was glad to get Scooby Snacks from my peers for being a decent handicapper but it didn't take long to realize I was not a great bettor! And after a lengthy stop play in 2015 I am only starting to realize that I am becoming a smarter player. After 21 years! The mentoring here helps. I can be social and antisocial at times on track. Not exactly the consistency required to develop sustained learning relationships.
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11-17-2017, 01:41 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2014
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I went with the two BEYERS and one Davidowitz.
cycles by Cramer, and Brohamer Modern pace handicapping
after those 3 are fully digested,
Allan
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11-18-2017, 12:02 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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I posted this link in another forum of this site...but I think that it fits here too. A great place for the beginning player to visit, IMO...and also good for a revisit by the "grizzled veterans" among us. Plenty of handicapping and betting information...without any effort or cost attached in order to avail ourselves of it.
http://www.handicapping.com/library/
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11-23-2017, 02:59 PM
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Educated Speculation
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Where Palm Trees Sway
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This isn't going to be a popular post, but honestly, it's a great book for a newbie.
"Betting on Horse Racing for Dummies" by Richard Eng.
Yeah, I know. Those "Dummie" books are for real dummies, right? I used to think that, but honestly, this is a truly well written book. Eng is a good author and his 20 years as Turf Editor and Handicapper for the Las Vegas Review-Journal gives him a good foundation to write this book. His style of writing is concise, fact-filled and yet fun to read.
I read this book about 5 years ago on a whim.... I think it was on super special on Amazon Kindle, so I went for it. I have read all the popular books over the years, and really tried to read this book as if I knew NOTHING about handicapping or horse racing in general. I have to say, it would be (IMO of course) a GREAT book for a newbie.
-Billy
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