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04-10-2007, 10:15 PM
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Patience $ Discipline
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Thanks HH.. its in the mail
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09-01-2007, 10:50 AM
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Is this book still in stock
Does anyone know if it is still in stock? Before I send the check to order it.
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09-01-2007, 08:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisl
Does anyone know if it is still in stock? Before I send the check to order it.
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Just spoke with Hat. he does have a few copies available.
His Sooners are also up 21-0 in 1st quarter which is all he cares about at the moment!
Richie
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09-01-2007, 08:30 PM
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#289
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I was at the Gambler's Book Club a couple of days ago, and they had about 20 copies on the shelf.
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09-02-2007, 11:36 AM
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velocitician
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The match up concept is a mirror image of the old Pizzola Fulcrum. Learn that and you save the purchase price of any new variation on explaining an old idea.
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"If this world is all about winners, what's for the losers?" Jr. Bonner: "Well somebody's got to hold the horses Ace."
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09-02-2007, 11:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 46zilzal
The match up concept is a mirror image of the old Pizzola Fulcrum. Learn that and you save the purchase price of any new variation on explaining an old idea.
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You don't have any idea what you're talking about.
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09-02-2007, 11:55 AM
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velocitician
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spilparc
You don't have any idea what you're talking about.
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Having been a Sartin program specialist almost from DAY ONE, you are barking up the wrong tree.
It is not that complicated either.
The match up is a technique that works, but it is not unique to Sartin. Once learned you never go back to not using the concept.
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Last edited by 46zilzal; 09-02-2007 at 11:58 AM.
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09-02-2007, 12:09 PM
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velocitician
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In a nutshell
Find the horse with the best pace (in the style it usually runs) and that it can reproduce. Use it as a yardstick to compare all the others. SIMPLE.
Only form cycles intervene to complicate this simple formula.
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Last edited by 46zilzal; 09-02-2007 at 12:10 PM.
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09-02-2007, 12:41 PM
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#294
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 46zilzal
The match up concept is a mirror image of the old Pizzola Fulcrum. Learn that and you save the purchase price of any new variation on explaining an old idea.
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In PMTR, Pizzolla states that he got the fulcrum idea from Jim Bradshaw. The fulcrum concept gets contenders, the Match Up takes it much farther to get the winner.
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09-02-2007, 02:00 PM
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#295
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A Rare One.
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Originally Posted by 46zilzal
Once learned you never go back to not using the concept.
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Wow. It's a rare day 46Z that I catch you employing a double negative.
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09-02-2007, 02:29 PM
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#296
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 46zilzal
The match up concept is a mirror image of the old Pizzola Fulcrum. Learn that and you save the purchase price of any new variation on explaining an old idea.
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I was just rereading the Sartin Match Up manual a couple of days ago and Pizzola's fulcrum was presented as a simpler, rule-based procedure for those having trouble grasping Bradshaw's ideas
Pizzola's fulcrum is based on the 2nd call, well over halfway into the race, where The Hat insists that the race starts at the gate and the early part of the race must be taken into account.
Pizzola also uses only the last paceline at the same distance structure as today's. The Hat usually uses a recent paceline, but refuses to set a rule- based procedure.
Similar concepts, but many differences. Mirror image only if you consider Twiggy and Marilyn Monroe identical because they are both female.
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09-02-2007, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by socantra
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Pizzola also uses only the last paceline at the same distance structure as today's. .
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What a limiting concept to use only the last paceline at the same distance.
Sartin used to say that Bradshaw goes deeper down the Past Performances
than anyone he ever saw.
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09-02-2007, 03:51 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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46 probably has not even read the book.
I know from hearing bouth The Hat nad Miket teach their version iin person, they are not the same thing. What 46 says could apply to the cold and the flu - a cold is mirror image of the flu only watered down.
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09-03-2007, 01:51 AM
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velocitician
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same concept, different rules.
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09-03-2007, 01:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyfox
Sartin used to say that Bradshaw goes deeper down the Past Performances than anyone he ever saw.
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The very thing that is the essence of the match up: seeing if the animal faced similar before and did well rather than looking at the possible sample error of a single line. A concept many find difficult to understand.
You are looking for the combination of a specific energy profile near the same total energy.
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