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Old 04-10-2007, 10:15 PM   #286
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Thanks HH.. its in the mail
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Old 09-01-2007, 10:50 AM   #287
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Is this book still in stock

Does anyone know if it is still in stock? Before I send the check to order it.
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Old 09-01-2007, 08:00 PM   #288
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Does anyone know if it is still in stock? Before I send the check to order it.
Just spoke with Hat. he does have a few copies available.

His Sooners are also up 21-0 in 1st quarter which is all he cares about at the moment!

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Old 09-01-2007, 08:30 PM   #289
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I was at the Gambler's Book Club a couple of days ago, and they had about 20 copies on the shelf.
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Old 09-02-2007, 11:36 AM   #290
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The match up concept is a mirror image of the old Pizzola Fulcrum. Learn that and you save the purchase price of any new variation on explaining an old idea.
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Old 09-02-2007, 11:51 AM   #291
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The match up concept is a mirror image of the old Pizzola Fulcrum. Learn that and you save the purchase price of any new variation on explaining an old idea.
You don't have any idea what you're talking about.
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Old 09-02-2007, 11:55 AM   #292
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You don't have any idea what you're talking about.
Having been a Sartin program specialist almost from DAY ONE, you are barking up the wrong tree.

It is not that complicated either.

The match up is a technique that works, but it is not unique to Sartin. Once learned you never go back to not using the concept.
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Old 09-02-2007, 12:09 PM   #293
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In a nutshell

Find the horse with the best pace (in the style it usually runs) and that it can reproduce. Use it as a yardstick to compare all the others. SIMPLE.

Only form cycles intervene to complicate this simple formula.
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Old 09-02-2007, 12:41 PM   #294
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The match up concept is a mirror image of the old Pizzola Fulcrum. Learn that and you save the purchase price of any new variation on explaining an old idea.
In PMTR, Pizzolla states that he got the fulcrum idea from Jim Bradshaw. The fulcrum concept gets contenders, the Match Up takes it much farther to get the winner.
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Old 09-02-2007, 02:00 PM   #295
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Once learned you never go back to not using the concept.
Wow. It's a rare day 46Z that I catch you employing a double negative.
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Old 09-02-2007, 02:29 PM   #296
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The match up concept is a mirror image of the old Pizzola Fulcrum. Learn that and you save the purchase price of any new variation on explaining an old idea.
I was just rereading the Sartin Match Up manual a couple of days ago and Pizzola's fulcrum was presented as a simpler, rule-based procedure for those having trouble grasping Bradshaw's ideas

Pizzola's fulcrum is based on the 2nd call, well over halfway into the race, where The Hat insists that the race starts at the gate and the early part of the race must be taken into account.

Pizzola also uses only the last paceline at the same distance structure as today's. The Hat usually uses a recent paceline, but refuses to set a rule- based procedure.

Similar concepts, but many differences. Mirror image only if you consider Twiggy and Marilyn Monroe identical because they are both female.
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Old 09-02-2007, 02:56 PM   #297
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Pizzola also uses only the last paceline at the same distance structure as today's. .
What a limiting concept to use only the last paceline at the same distance.
Sartin used to say that Bradshaw goes deeper down the Past Performances
than anyone he ever saw.
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Old 09-02-2007, 03:51 PM   #298
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46 probably has not even read the book.
I know from hearing bouth The Hat nad Miket teach their version iin person, they are not the same thing. What 46 says could apply to the cold and the flu - a cold is mirror image of the flu only watered down.
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Old 09-03-2007, 01:51 AM   #299
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same concept, different rules.
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Old 09-03-2007, 01:57 AM   #300
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Sartin used to say that Bradshaw goes deeper down the Past Performances than anyone he ever saw.
The very thing that is the essence of the match up: seeing if the animal faced similar before and did well rather than looking at the possible sample error of a single line. A concept many find difficult to understand.

You are looking for the combination of a specific energy profile near the same total energy.
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