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09-20-2019, 09:33 AM
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Whistleblowers, Bribes, and Biden
Going to be a fun few days with this.
Marching orders from Trump are this is a deep state holdover.
Allegedly the President was withholding Congressionally approved aid to Ukraine under the condition they investigated Biden.
Biden is accused of demanding the Prosecutor General of Ukraine be fired in exchange for the release of $1 billion in aid. Shokin, the Ukrainian PG, was investigating a company that Biden's son was on the board of directors on.
However, Shokin's removal was the position of the IMF, EU, and individual Euro nations who wanted to remove older corrupt influences from the Yushchenko and Yanukovych Administrations.
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09-20-2019, 09:55 AM
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09-20-2019, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
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True but vastly underestimates the cowardice of Democrats.
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09-20-2019, 10:04 AM
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I thought Nadler already started one. I thought the House already voted on one a couple of times.
This should be easy for the anti-Trump crows to accept as truth and justification for the spying on Trump campaign by previous administration.
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09-20-2019, 10:11 AM
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Ukraine has every right to deny his demand, not get the $$$$ nd take care of itself. I have no objection to areas that CLAIM to be nations, ACT like nations, and pay their OWN way.
Ukraine, know your role and shut your hole.
You want us to pay your way, then understand you owe us.
If you want to put us in our place, than I urge you, tell us to bugger off and stand up on your own two commie feet and march lockstep into that good night! 
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09-20-2019, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by davew
This should be easy for the anti-Trump crows to accept as truth and justification for the spying on Trump campaign by previous administration.
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Yanukovych is the former Ukrainian President that Kilimnik was lobbying Manafort to get installed as a Pro-Russian leader of a carved up Ukraine.
- Mueller Report Volume 1 Page 131
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09-20-2019, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Ukraine has every right to deny his demand, not get the $$$$ nd take care of itself. I have no objection to areas that CLAIM to be nations, ACT like nations, and pay their OWN way.
Ukraine, know your role and shut your hole.
You want us to pay your way, then understand you owe us.
If you want to put us in our place, than I urge you, tell us to bugger off and stand up on your own two commie feet and march lockstep into that good night! |
Congress appropriated and authorized that money.
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Originally Posted by woodtoo
"If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy." -David Frum
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09-20-2019, 10:28 AM
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Oh well, they better have a congressional committee look into this!
Do they have enough dems left not sitting on other committees? 
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09-20-2019, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Oh well, they better have a congressional committee look into this!
Do they have enough dems left not sitting on other committees? |
You basically just argued the POTUS should use Congressional funds to bribe a foreign government for the sole purpose of personal political gain.
I know what you're going to say next but I'll wait.
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09-20-2019, 10:46 AM
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09-20-2019, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
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Either:
He knows who the whistleblower is which is major fail at how whistleblower laws work.
Or:
He's just making shit up.
Shocking I know... corruption or complete fabrication
.. with this WH? No way. 
Last edited by elysiantraveller; 09-20-2019 at 10:50 AM.
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09-20-2019, 10:50 AM
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09-20-2019, 10:56 AM
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No, for JUSTICE.
He can't allow a criminal like Biden possibly win an election.
He is looking out for Truth, Justice, and the American Way~!
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09-20-2019, 10:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
No, for JUSTICE.
He can't allow a criminal like Biden possibly win an election.
He is looking out for Truth, Justice, and the American Way~!
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Good one.
Points.
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09-20-2019, 11:04 AM
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This whistleblower can go straight to Congress if he wanted to.
But no. 
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