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Old 10-02-2018, 07:37 PM   #16
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Nice post, but what does it have to do with street turds?

https://www.businessinsider.com/san-...-crisis-2018-8
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Old 10-02-2018, 07:39 PM   #17
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Nice post, but what does it have to do with street turds?

https://www.businessinsider.com/san-...-crisis-2018-8


Look!
Out inthe street!
It's a broom,
It's got feet!

It's POOPERMAN!

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Old 10-02-2018, 07:42 PM   #18
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Nice post, but what does it have to do with street turds?

https://www.businessinsider.com/san-...-crisis-2018-8
I thought the title of this thread was:

" California’s poverty rate is still the highest in the nation"
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Old 10-02-2018, 08:05 PM   #19
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That was NOT the topic of the post YOU quoted.
Pay attention.
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Old 10-02-2018, 08:24 PM   #20
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That was NOT the topic of the post YOU quoted.
Pay attention.
What are you babbling about? I responded to the wrong datayou Trumpeteers posted and and to the tittle of this thread

California’s poverty rate is still the highest in the nation


It's not
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Old 10-03-2018, 01:07 PM   #21
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YOu quoted ME.
Admit it - you are far to anxious to just lash out at everyone to know what you are talking about.
Hate will consume you.
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Old 10-03-2018, 05:25 PM   #22
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YOu quoted ME.
Admit it - you are far to anxious to just lash out at everyone to know what you are talking about.
Hate will consume you.
You are losing it
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Old 10-04-2018, 04:18 AM   #24
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YOu quoted ME.
Admit it - you are far to anxious to just lash out at everyone to know what you are talking about.
Hate will consume you.
The Drudge report claimed it. I and others like mostpost refuted it. And? Do you have a rational argument to make other than accusing me of "lashing out to everyone?"

You are losing it Mr Troll. Get off my back.

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Education in red states is even worse.

Actually, that is grossly misleading.

Almost all "rankings" such as you posted utilize macro data which ignore demographics. The only way to accurately compare education results between states with greatly divergent populations is through the use of covariates, measuring educational achievement between states within the same ethnic group.

Which is to say, how do the scores of white kids in a lower-ranking state compare to those of white kids in a high-ranking state? How do the scores of Hispanic kids rank between those two states? African-American kids?

Here's an example of the "high/low ranking" fallacy. It's an old post (2009), but the principle hasn't changed.

Longhorns 17, Badgers 1
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Actually, that is grossly misleading.

Almost all "rankings" such as you posted utilize macro data which ignore demographics. The only way to accurately compare education results between states with greatly divergent populations is through the use of covariates, measuring educational achievement between states within the same ethnic group.

Which is to say, how do the scores of white kids in a lower-ranking state compare to those of white kids in a high-ranking state? How do the scores of Hispanic kids rank between those two states? African-American kids?

Here's an example of the "high/low ranking" fallacy. It's an old post (2009), but the principle hasn't changed.

Longhorns 17, Badgers 1
Do you have rankings corrected for demographics? I could not find anything
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Do you have rankings corrected for demographics? I could not find anything
No, but over the weekend I'll see if I can find a published study. Other than the link I posted, I don't remember seeing one that weights for demographics. I only came across that linked article a few years ago when I became interested in Simpson's Paradox.
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No, but over the weekend I'll see if I can find a published study. Other than the link I posted, I don't remember seeing one that weights for demographics. I only came across that linked article a few years ago when I became interested in Simpson's Paradox.
I don't think there are any. I would guess the readily available studies may not be perfect, but may be close enough.

Many point to similar rankings
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