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04-24-2016, 09:13 PM
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#1051
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Today's (Sun 4/24) KEE 5th..
Watch the stretch run of this race.
And then wait for the head on.
In mid stretch the  is tring her bes to get as far from the rail as possible the  ( post time fav) is moving strongly to the outside of the
That one clearly gets into the causing that horse to lose forward momentum. In my opinion this caused the to lose a placing. I think the would have finished second.
Here's the dilemma. The finishes behind the , Because of this, those that had the in their exotics to NOT finish third kind of got the shaft.
Clearly a conundrum.
Comments?
Link to Keeneland website. Click on video.
http://www.keeneland.com/racing/race-replay
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04-25-2016, 11:32 AM
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#1052
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Originally Posted by EMD4ME
If someone walked down the street, or into a Queens DA's office AND said the aforementioned: Who would defend NYRA?
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Please do. And tell us how it goes.
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05-07-2016, 01:50 PM
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#1053
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JOKE OF A DQ AT TAMPA JUST NOW... the more i look at that the more mad i get..... way to protect the player  horse was clear by 5 lengths
Last edited by no breathalyzer; 05-07-2016 at 01:54 PM.
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05-08-2016, 06:22 AM
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#1054
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This is why we don't need DQs
Here are some of the official chart comments from the Derby yesterday with, might I add, no inquiries, objections or DQs (I know, god forbid)
Suddenbreakingnews: trouble early
Destin: broke in, bumped
Mo Tom: steadied, fanned 7w
Lani: off slow, forced 8w
Mor Spirit: carried out 6w
My Man Sam: checked sharply
Creator: checked, bumped hard
Trojan Nation: checked start
Oscar Nom: steadied, bumped
Majesto: steadied early.
So, I guess there was nothing to see here, right?
If its ok to 'let them play' in the Derby, you can let them play in other races. Funny how some have suggested there would be chaos and bodies everywhere if they just 'paid the winners' so how come there's never any accidents or 'bodies everywhere' in the Derby? Apparently, there are 'no rules' so where are all these accidents that people speak of if they just paid the winners?
Where are they?
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05-08-2016, 06:54 PM
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#1055
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
This is why we don't need DQs
Here are some of the official chart comments from the Derby yesterday with, might I add, no inquiries, objections or DQs (I know, god forbid)
Suddenbreakingnews: trouble early
Destin: broke in, bumped
Mo Tom: steadied, fanned 7w
Lani: off slow, forced 8w
Mor Spirit: carried out 6w
My Man Sam: checked sharply
Creator: checked, bumped hard
Trojan Nation: checked start
Oscar Nom: steadied, bumped
Majesto: steadied early.
So, I guess there was nothing to see here, right?
If its ok to 'let them play' in the Derby, you can let them play in other races. Funny how some have suggested there would be chaos and bodies everywhere if they just 'paid the winners' so how come there's never any accidents or 'bodies everywhere' in the Derby? Apparently, there are 'no rules' so where are all these accidents that people speak of if they just paid the winners?
Where are they?
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Don't think there was a single incident in the Derby that warranted an inquiry. Give me one, specifically, that you did.
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05-08-2016, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
Don't think there was a single incident in the Derby that warranted an inquiry. Give me one, specifically, that you did.
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There's never an inquiry or an objection and there's always physical contact and interference, as far as specifics I don't know I'm trusting the chart caller wasn't lying. I could certainly give you examples in other years as my post is derby specific and not 2016 specific.
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05-09-2016, 12:26 AM
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#1057
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
There's never an inquiry or an objection and there's always physical contact and interference, as far as specifics I don't know I'm trusting the chart caller wasn't lying. I could certainly give you examples in other years as my post is derby specific and not 2016 specific.
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If that is the case, then why are every one of your examples from the chart horses from the 2016 Derby??
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05-09-2016, 01:03 AM
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#1058
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Originally Posted by FrankieFigs
If that is the case, then why are every one of your examples from the chart horses from the 2016 Derby??
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because that's the race that was run yesterday.
i was making a point, this happens every derby, you have a handful of horses who check, steady, etc.
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05-09-2016, 08:31 AM
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#1059
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
There's never an inquiry or an objection and there's always physical contact and interference, as far as specifics I don't know I'm trusting the chart caller wasn't lying. I could certainly give you examples in other years as my post is derby specific and not 2016 specific.
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There have been inquiries and objections in the Derby.
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05-09-2016, 08:52 AM
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#1060
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Originally Posted by cj
There have been inquiries and objections in the Derby.
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There have? I don't remember any in recent times.
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05-09-2016, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
There have? I don't remember any in recent times.
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Yes, they have. Stop posting just to post, unless you actually think I'm lying.
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05-09-2016, 09:00 AM
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#1062
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Originally Posted by cj
Yes, they have. Stop posting just to post, unless you actually think I'm lying.
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How about posting when and where, you asked me for clarification on the exchange wager trainers complaint point I made and I supplied a link, but I'm not allowed to ask when and where? I never suggested you were lying.
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05-09-2016, 09:02 AM
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#1063
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
How about posting when and where, you asked me for clarification on the exchange wager trainers complaint point I made and I supplied a link, but I'm not allowed to ask when and where? I never suggested you were lying.
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I know there was a foul claim against Monarchos, and I'm pretty sure Gate Dancer was DQed. You could look it up as easily as I can. Google is your friend.
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05-09-2016, 09:05 AM
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#1064
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Originally Posted by cj
I know there was a foul claim against Monarchos, and I'm pretty sure Gate Dancer was DQed. You could look it up as easily as I can. Google is your friend.
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Google was your friend here too.
http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...8&postcount=39
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05-09-2016, 09:27 AM
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#1065
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
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Except you didn't provide a link that proved your assertion. Anyway, that is another thread that can be addressed there, as somebody already answered it and you haven't responded.
Stick to this thread here.
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