Jimmy Carter Has Cancer

[Tom]

Did they ever apologize for the hostage taking?
Screw Iran - they are evil and will be anything other than evil.
What happens to them is tough crap for them.

[horses4courses]

What goes around comes around............

[NorCalGreg]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

What goes around comes around............

You'd think they could at least spell Debbie Schlussel's name correctly, if they are going to mock her......it's right there in front

[Tom]

She has sunk to the level of left wing media people.

[speculus]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

As a cancer survivor, I would say that I have never seen so much misinformation condensed in to so few words. I hope nobody pays any attention to this post. Following the advice outlined in it could be and likely will be fatal. Sorry if offend you, but cancer is too important to mince words about.

Dear Robert,

No, I am not offended.

I know where you are coming from, and I can understand.

I also knew that some people would find these opinions shocking (or "nutty" as some other poster has described) and in fact said so, but still posted because, after working for years with cancer patients, their relatives, and the medical fraternity, I have formed these opinions.

The number of people who are disillusioned with the claims of the modern medicine that cancer can be cured by their protocol treatment is growing by the day, and more and more are looking for alternative treatment for cancer. That is a fact I hope no one will deny.

My defense can only be condensed in 3 words: Time will tell.

Since I will not be posting again on this topic, I wish to also record a couple of symptoms that we found were statistically very significant and may perhaps be called as advance warning for cancer.

One is a sudden, severe and uncontrollable itching sensation in one or both eyes which lasts for about 10-15 minutes, and goes off on its own (if you go to an ophthalmologist, he/she fails to find reason for it as everything looks normal after the itching attack subsides); and the other is thinning of the wrists (if the patient is wearing the same watch every day, he/she started noticing it is fast becoming loose around the wrist, implying the wrist bones had suddenly started shrinking in size).

And one more observation which was as surprising as it was strange. When terminal cases were grouped into two categories, those who had severe pain in the last days and those who had almost no pain in the last days, a remarkable behavior pattern emerged.

In a remarkably high percentage of cases, those in the second group (no pain), in the last week or so of their life, frequently started glancing at the clock (wall clock or table clock in the room), and if they had any visitor, they would ask only one and the same question: "Did you have your lunch?" (or dinner or breakfast, depending upon the time of the visit), and showed great reluctance to speak anything further on any topic despite the visitor (or the relatives around) prodding them to chat with the visitor.

The consistency of this strange behavior has been so overwhelming that we now advise the family what to expect if the patient (without pain) starts behaving in this odd way.

As I have made clear I have nothing more to add, and therefore, will not post anything more on this topic. Those who are as disillusioned as I am with the medical world's false and tall claims about the success of their protocol treatment may PM me if they wish to find out more about our work.

[Robert Goren]

My main complaint with the medical world is they are not always open about your chances of survival. I am a great believer in using chemo, surgery and radiation when there is a chance it will work. I just think they think they should tell you upfront what your chances are. My mother went through hell with chemo. She did not stop it until I asked what her chances were. She had pancreatic cancer which means she had little or no chance. I think they finally admitted she had well under a 1% chance. It even got Steve Jobs eventually and he had the money to everything and anything they wanted to do.
For the record I had bladder cancer. It was caught very early and it was surgically removed. No chemo or radiation was needed. I asked before the surgery and the urologist said he had not seen a cancer caught this early where the patient did not go on to live a normal life in over 20 years. I got 2 other opinions and they all said about the same thing.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

My main complaint with the medical world is they are not always open about your chances of survival. I am a great believer in using chemo, surgery and radiation when there is a chance it will work. I just think they think they should tell you upfront what your chances are. My mother went through hell with chemo. She did not stop it until I asked what her chances were. She had pancreatic cancer which means she had little or no chance. I think they finally admitted she had well under a 1% chance. It even got Steve Jobs eventually and he had the money to everything and anything they wanted to do.
For the record I had bladder cancer. It was caught very early and it was surgically removed. No chemo or radiation was needed. I asked before the surgery and the urologist said he had not seen a cancer caught this early where the patient did not go on to live a normal life in over 20 years. I got 2 other opinions and they all said about the same thing.

75% of the doctors surveyed said that they would refuse chemotherapy treatments if they had cancer themselves. And yet...these exact same doctors recommend chemo to almost 100% of their patients.

[Marshall Bennett]

I see it both ways. there's no doubt mental state has an effect on how fast cancer advances. There are many high profile examples. Two that come to mind is the Shah of Iran and Richard Nixon. After being exiled from his country and brought here, cancer killed the Shah in quick order. He was overwhelmed with depression. Nixon was another. He resigned and was almost immediately diagnosed with cancer. He lived through it for a number of years, but was never the same man.
There's also no doubt that medical advances has extended the lives of millions. If left untreated, most would have certainly died. The treatments can be exhausting and painful, but I suppose a lot depends on the individual and their desire to live. I'm sure many would say it was worth it to live even a couple years longer. Others perhaps, not so much. My sister had treatments and died before completing them.
Until the real cause of cancer is fully understood, a cure will be hard to find. There may never be one simply due to the complexity of cell development and derailment.

[tucker6]

Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett

I see it both ways. there's no doubt mental state has an effect on how fast cancer advances. There are many high profile examples. Two that come to mind is the Shah of Iran and Richard Nixon. After being exiled from his country and brought here, cancer killed the Shah in quick order. He was overwhelmed with depression. Nixon was another. He resigned and was almost immediately diagnosed with cancer. He lived through it for a number of years, but was never the same man.
There's also no doubt that medical advances has extended the lives of millions. If left untreated, most would have certainly died. The treatments can be exhausting and painful, but I suppose a lot depends on the individual and their desire to live. I'm sure many would say it was worth it to live even a couple years longer. Others perhaps, not so much. My sister had treatments and died before completing them.
Until the real cause of cancer is fully understood, a cure will be hard to find. There may never be one simply due to the complexity of cell development and derailment.

While maintaining a positive attitude can certainly help in some cases of cancer, in other cases the cancer is too aggressive to stop. What I found in my wife's case is that she had a gene marker for an aggressive form of lung cancer. It only turns on IF she developed lung cancer. That gene marker was her death sentence. No amount of positive attitude was changing that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KRAS

"KRAS acts as a molecular on/off switch. Whether a patient is positive or negative for a mutation in the epidermal growth factor receptor (EGFR) will predict how patients will respond to certain EGFR antagonists such as erlotinib (Tarceva) or gefitinib (Iressa). Patients who harbor an EGFR mutation have a 60% response rate to erlotinib. However, the mutation of KRAS and EGFR are generally mutually exclusive.[20][21][22] Lung cancer patients who are positive for KRAS mutation (and the EGFR status would be wild type) have a low response rate to erlotinib or gefitinib estimated at 5% or less."

I found this to be unfortunately true.

[Robert Goren]

I saw a clip of Jimmy Carter yesterday ( I can't find it today) where he was asked if would have done anything differently in his life . His reply " I would send more helicopters" I know what he means, but I think that was a strange answer. But he always was a strange dude. With the exception of the four years he spent in the White House, he has had a very successful life. The country recovered from his four years, but he never will. A hundred years from now when the topic of who was the worst president, his name will be brought up very quickly. That is his legacy.

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

I saw a clip of Jimmy Carter yesterday ( I can't find it today) where he was asked if would have done anything differently in his life . His reply " I would send more helicopters" I know what he means, but I think that was a strange answer. But he always was a strange dude. With the exception of the four years he spent in the White House, he has had a very successful life. The country recovered from his four years, but he never will. A hundred years from now when the topic of who was the worst president, his name will be brought up very quickly. That is his legacy.

RG, I think you wrong because Barack Hussein Obama has got an even money chance of his name being the one. The amount of spending is unequaled for negative attachment to our current President. I know that you will defend him from the grave, but it will not stop the scourge that will be with his name forever. In another thread you and others babble about taxes Google and like company's legally do not have to pay, consider the following.

[horses4courses]

cancer has stopped spreading and is "responding well to treatment," The Carter Center in Atlanta said in a statement Tuesday.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/10/politi...ell/index.html

Funny thought just occurred to me watching the nightly news.
If Carter ran again for president tomorrow, he'd get more votes
than many of the Bozos up on stage tonight.......

[Marshall Bennett]

Yeah, what a stupid ridiculous thought. Thanks for sharing and confirming your lack of character.

[Tom]

H4C describes our liberal run education system to a tee.

[LottaKash]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

75% of the doctors surveyed said that they would refuse chemotherapy treatments if they had cancer themselves. And yet...these exact same doctors recommend chemo to almost 100% of their patients.

Or any vaccine, for that matter.... I asked a bunch of them about it too...