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04-13-2018, 05:31 PM
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#16
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Denver, CO.
Posts: 217
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And still going strong. Congratulations and keep that computer brain churning up more original content.
Doug
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04-13-2018, 05:47 PM
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#17
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dGnr8
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Niagara, Ontario
Posts: 3,023
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Congrats Dave.
Are you looking for 28 more?
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The great menace to progress is not ignorance but the illusion of knowledge - Daniel J. Boorstin
The takers get the honey, the givers sing the blues - Robin Trower, Too Rolling Stoned - 1974
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04-13-2018, 05:48 PM
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#18
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Denver, CO.
Posts: 217
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PS. Going to the store now to "celebrate" your anniversary!
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04-13-2018, 06:35 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 621
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Congrats on finding a way to make money in this crazy game without having to bet real money.
You look familiar from some youtube videos I've come across.
Am I right?
Last edited by Denny; 04-13-2018 at 06:37 PM.
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04-13-2018, 07:37 PM
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#20
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 16,908
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Denny
Congrats on finding a way to make money in this crazy game without having to bet real money.
You look familiar from some youtube videos I've come across.
Am I right?
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You are right.
I've considered cosmetic surgery but business isn't that good. :-)
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04-14-2018, 03:08 AM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,529
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Denny
Congrats on finding a way to make money in this crazy game without having to bet real money.
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Where do you come up with this utter BS? The same place you came up with "Crist abandoned the game?"
Dave doesn't bet real money?
Source?
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04-14-2018, 05:16 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Spaghetti Junction and Frustration Blvd.
Posts: 1,898
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Congratulations on your Anniversary Dave... You are a Total Class fellow, and, I wish you nothing but the VERY BEST Always.
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Warm Regards,
Vinnie
"All Human error is impatience; a premature renunciation of method"- F. Kafka
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04-14-2018, 08:39 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 16,908
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Where do you come up with this utter BS? The same place you came up with "Crist abandoned the game?"
Dave doesn't bet real money?
Source?
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PA,
Well, the poster is right.
In the last several years I've only played when I could take at least a week away from life and play 4+ days. I've not made big money in a year for quite a while.
I imagine that is the same way many play the game: short, intense bursts.
However, every year I manage to make 4 or 5 withdrawals and have not made a deposit since I opened my account.
I'd guess this is probably different than than the way most play the game.
:-)
Of course, someone will bring up, "If you do so well, why don't you just bet all the time?"
Answer: That is called a J-J-J-Job. Frankly, I do better at my day job - which is teaching handicapping and writing software for horse players.
It would seem that I am a follower of the Maynard G. Krebs school of life.
;-)
Best to all,
Dave
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04-14-2018, 08:52 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 37
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Ah, you're a good lad, Dave. May you have much continued success.
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04-15-2018, 02:33 AM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,529
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz
PA,
Well, the poster is right.
In the last several years I've only played when I could take at least a week away from life and play 4+ days. I've not made big money in a year for quite a while.
I imagine that is the same way many play the game: short, intense bursts.
However, every year I manage to make 4 or 5 withdrawals and have not made a deposit since I opened my account.
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So you're not withdrawing real money?
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04-15-2018, 09:13 AM
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crusty old guy
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Snarkytown USA
Posts: 3,914
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Congrats Dave. That's a long time to be doing anything! At the risk of sounding like a fanboi I really enjoy your videos. There hasn't been one that I didn't learn some new things, and some of those things were...well...not what I would expect to be true. I recently watched Understanding Early Speed again, and am working my way through the 1-2-3 seminar now.
I'm not sure if you can answer this here but the factors that make up the handicapping objects in 1-2-3 are a bit different than what I would have expected based on the IVs in P&P. Is that a function of the game (data) changing in the last five years or the statistical method used?
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04-15-2018, 10:32 AM
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#27
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 16,908
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Quote:
Originally Posted by headhawg
Congrats Dave. That's a long time to be doing anything! At the risk of sounding like a fanboi I really enjoy your videos. There hasn't been one that I didn't learn some new things, and some of those things were...well...not what I would expect to be true. I recently watched Understanding Early Speed again, and am working my way through the 1-2-3 seminar now.
I'm not sure if you can answer this here but the factors that make up the handicapping objects in 1-2-3 are a bit different than what I would have expected based on the IVs in P&P. Is that a function of the game (data) changing in the last five years or the statistical method used?
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The reason for that is that we handicappers have a tendency to ask one question but provide the answer to another.
What I mean by that is, when we look for factors to predict "the profile of a winner that wires the field," the first (and logical) thing we think of is factors that pertain to the 1st call.
But that really wasn't the question, was it?
So, when we ask the question, "What makes a horse fit the profile of a 1st-call winner," obviously the ability/tendency to run to the front is important. That must be addressed.
But once we've determined that - usually through an analysis of running style, we will not usually find that 1st fraction ratings actually get them into the winner's circle; it will be other things.
This is why jumping all over the big F1 despite the fact that the horse does not figure to run to the front is generally a waste of time.
I hope I made sense with this. If not, feel free to ask again.
Dave
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04-15-2018, 10:35 AM
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#28
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 16,908
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
So you're not withdrawing real money?
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Well, the money seems pretty real. I mean, I do take out a few thousand every year.
It just isn't what I would call BIG numbers, and certainly not professional-level money.
Dave
PS: I got the passive-aggressive comment from the get-go. I just chose to ignore it because responding would have served no purpose.
Last edited by Dave Schwartz; 04-15-2018 at 10:37 AM.
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04-15-2018, 10:54 AM
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crusty old guy
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Snarkytown USA
Posts: 3,914
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz
I hope I made sense with this. If not, feel free to ask again.
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Yes, I understood thanks. I was thinking of something more specific but I should have been clearer in my post. I was wanting to know the reason(s) for the differences between the factors that make up the 1-2-3 objects (like PSR1) and the list of FT Best Scores in P&P. Was it due to a change in data (the more recent set being significantly different from the P&P set) or was the change in preferred factors due to the statistical method? (I believe you used step-wise regression in 1-2-3.) Perhaps the answer is covered later on in the seminar but I am only in Lesson 2.
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04-15-2018, 06:32 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 621
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I've had two winning years in the last ten.
Maybe that has something to do with my being as you call it "passive aggressive".
Most people don't make it on betting alone and either need a job or a wife with one to pay the mortgage.
Great that you can teach and find enough buyers for your product to pay yours.
Thumbs up, Dave.
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