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Old 07-24-2017, 04:39 PM   #1411
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Can't believe the 4 is 8/1. Kind of regret not atleast using the horse in something
I was going to key the in all 3 trifecta slots, but ended up just letting a small double to the 1,4 ride...

$56.87 for the 50cent tri??? are you kidding me???

really got hammered late in a lot of pools
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Old 07-24-2017, 04:55 PM   #1412
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Old 07-24-2017, 05:00 PM   #1413
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SAR R8

Taking my chances with the at a fair 4-1 price. Classy, runs well at a variety of distances, likes good/soft turf, gets good pace to run at, very consistent (except for two races at Kee).

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Old 07-24-2017, 05:23 PM   #1414
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R9:

Sort of a pick 'em off the turf among first timers and I kind of liked a few, a couple looked like possible plays, one of which drew the rail ( Cross Multiply) which is among my least favorite scenarios for a firster which I like.

Anyway, I'm mostly interested, for that reason, in Alien Invasion.

Mike Maker enters on the turf and doesn't scratch when it ends up washed to the main. Maybe a real analysis would show that to be a meaningless consideration, but since I have no such analysis, I find it kind of interesting. Desert Party colt has an alien handful worth of subtly sharp works for the debut and breaks from a good spot. Been up over 10-1 and closer to 15-1 since the open, so I guess I have to like him more than Cross Multiply anyway.
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Old 07-24-2017, 05:37 PM   #1415
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race 9
I like that were purchased at auction.

leads that group, both in purchase price and sexy dirt-meant works.
is really cool as an underneath-add, given that his running line looks worse than her effort, and Nevin is not averse to giving them a race, especially before Saratoga. Potential value-add here.
is cold on the board. I like the penultimate work.

as far as the tote board: took some unexpected multi-money relative to his morning line.
$1 EXA5, 7, 8, 14
$1 EXA10
Conditional Wager Probable
MTP
Wager Total $4.00

$1 EXA10
$1 EXA5, 7, 8, 14
Conditional Wager Probable
MTP
Wager Total $4.00


$0.10 SU14
$0.10 SU5, 7, 8
$0.10 SU1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, 14
$0.10 SU10
Wager Total $2.10

$0.10 SU5, 7, 8
$0.10 SU14
$0.10 SU1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, 14
$0.10 SU10
Wager Total $2.10

$0.10 SU14
$0.10 SU5, 7, 8
$0.10 SU10
$0.10 SU1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, 14
Wager Total $2.10

$0.10 SU5, 7, 8
$0.10 SU14
$0.10 SU10
$0.10 SU1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, 14
Wager Total $2.10
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Old 07-24-2017, 05:59 PM   #1416
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Anyway, I'm mostly interested, for that reason, in Alien Invasion.

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3 Alien Invasion 24.60 12.00 7.20


Hey lookie there, I think a 1-fer puts me well ahead of my Belmont pace already.
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Old 07-25-2017, 09:44 PM   #1417
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Wednesday at Saratoga. In race 2, I'm going for a wild longshot with #12. Ricardo Santana listed to ride. First time Nick Zito. Hey , if D. Wayne can do it with a 100-1 shot, why not Nick.
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Old 07-25-2017, 11:09 PM   #1418
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R9:

Sort of a pick 'em off the turf among first timers and I kind of liked a few, a couple looked like possible plays, one of which drew the rail ( Cross Multiply) which is among my least favorite scenarios for a firster which I like.

Anyway, I'm mostly interested, for that reason, in Alien Invasion.

Mike Maker enters on the turf and doesn't scratch when it ends up washed to the main. Maybe a real analysis would show that to be a meaningless consideration, but since I have no such analysis, I find it kind of interesting. Desert Party colt has an alien handful worth of subtly sharp works for the debut and breaks from a good spot. Been up over 10-1 and closer to 15-1 since the open, so I guess I have to like him more than Cross Multiply anyway.
Nice job. That horse cost me the pick 4.
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Old 07-26-2017, 12:41 AM   #1419
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SARATOGA 7/25

1ST NO WUNDER 7-2

3RD PROFESSOR SNAPE 3-1

5TH DELTALINA 5-1

7TH VOODOO SONG 3-1

9TH FINLEY'S LUCKY CHARM 7-2



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Old 07-26-2017, 11:46 AM   #1420
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interested in the 3rd and 4th today going 9f.


R3 - ton of pace signed on.
= obvious quality of pace
= obvious lone decent closer

R3 could be chalky and obvious.
However, I do see a possibility for chaos. 3 and 6 are no guarantee to 'fire'. If they don't fire, it becomes much more wide open.
Organised confusion = in a chaos situation, i give the edge to inside posts for the win/multis. (1-5)
b= if you are dead-set on a collapse, the 8(post7) has a puncher's chance of hitting the board(underneath) at big odds.


R4
Fayeq = best and brightest. Just some good momentum and decent enough footwork away from running away from this field.
Orb's brother/nephew/whoever = I do not like the ml fav at all. I don't want to use him in my exacta.

Hammerin Aamer = in top form, overlooked. Contends at a price, needs Fayeq to stutter over his wrong lead again to have any chance.

Repole shipper = I don't know that he's not good enough.


race2 and 4 seem to be ripe for a price as surrounding legs. GL
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Old 07-26-2017, 12:34 PM   #1421
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Race 7 and race 8 is where I am looking to strike today

The Voodoo song was impressive Saturday. I was upset I only got 5/2 on that horse. Comes back a few days later, I think the horse wins again
20 to win on

In race 8, I think the held at gun point has a great chance to win.
Give me 10 and 10 on the and a 20 dollar double / race 7 and 8
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Old 07-26-2017, 12:43 PM   #1422
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Anyone have a link to pp's for the first race today?
Like to look at the jumpers
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Anyone have a link to pp's for the first race today?
Like to look at the jumpers
just charts via
http://www.equibase.com/static/entry...17USA-EQB.html

race 1
chalk = way most likely as far as I can see.
early pace, is an interesting alternative
(closer) is one I try to beat in vertical exotics
IIRC these jumpers with pace (456 today) have a big advantage, due to the last hurdle being removed to decrease breakdowns. If you follow jumps and they have returned the hurdle, disregard.




still going-on about the 4th:
Really don't like the Emancipation.
I mean, he's a pretty horse(and an aesthetically pleasing, fundamentally-sound athlete), and he's contended 2-for-2 thus far. Those two facts alone are a minor positive model that indicates a possibility of quality. = I could certainly be dead wrong.

Emancipation's debut = got a dream trip, behind a KMac maiden who did all the work. That Kmac looked like a strong trip model from that race, but has since come back to run a very dull race vs. Pletcher's future big underlay Mr (soon to eat) Crow.

Emancipation's 2nd race Allowance = vs scrubs. I remember having the winner 7? Everybody luvs Rudy or similar name that day on a pick-3, only becuase the race was weak, and Emancipation happened to be a MASSIVE underlay, and he was one of several at a fair price with a chance in a bad race.
So, Emancipation 'visually' looked nice in that dumpster fire, and suddenly he's supposed to have his coming out party against decent horses, today? Emancipation is about as likely, in my opinion, as the scrub #1 Battle of Midway(who may be 3x the odds). At least Battle of Midway figures to suck-up and hope to be a last-move opportunist... Emancipation is probably actually going to try to circle the field with a closing move. Rude awakening.
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Old 07-26-2017, 01:22 PM   #1424
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results oriented?

race 1 turned out well , with the public betting more on the than the

It could have easily chalked out , or been spoiled by the wise change-of-tactics with the .

I didn't play. Watch out for quality horses who can be forwardly placed.
Maybe a closing-favorite will be vulnerable at least once this meet?


*and battle midway, obv not battle 'of' midway
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Old 07-26-2017, 01:27 PM   #1425
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R2:

Since she opened at closer to 20-1 than to 10-1, I guess I'll post one I might take a shot at.

First, I did not like anything in the race. This looks like a field where all the runners got left in the box or something.

So rather than align myself with one of two handfuls worth of second timers that need to improve, I'll shoot for 15-1 on one with experience that is shifting gears and turning back in distance.

Filly Madison isn't much, but this is a battle of isn't much. Of the relevant stats, McPeek does better than his usual going route to sprint (21%) and that is what I am counting on to wake this filly up a little at a nice price.
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