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Old 07-19-2018, 03:07 AM   #16
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Can the conservative Wall Street Journal now be just a lying collection of RINO's ?

WSJ editors furiously blister president for ‘kowtowing to the Kremlin’ in Helsinki for personal profit

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/wsj...rsonal-profit/

In what may be their most critical commentary on the president of Donald Trump, the editors of the deeply conservative Wall Street Journal questioned the loyalty of the president saying he is putting his personal profit and desire for attention before the needs of the country.

Calling it the “Trump First Doctrine,” the editors called the president’s latest overseas trip to meet with NATO leaders and Russian President Vladimir Putin a prelude to a “weak and dangerous place to be.”

The start of the editorial was exceptionally blunt.

“Donald Trump left for Europe a week ago with his reputation enhanced by a strong Supreme Court nomination. He returned Monday with that reputation diminished after a tumultuous week of indulging what amounts to the Trump First Doctrine,” it began.

...“The world hasn’t seen a U.S. President like this in modern times, and as ever in Trump World everyone else will have to adapt. Let’s navigate between the critics who predict the end of world order and the cheerleaders who see only genius, and try to offer a realistic assessment of the fallout from a troubling week,” they wrote before going point by point through Trump’s disastrous European trip.

Addressing Trump’s dismissal of U.S. intelligence agencies accusations that Russia meddled in the 2016 presidential election while standing next to Putin, the WSJ called it a “kowtow to the Kremlin.”

“The charitable explanation for this kowtow to the Kremlin is that Mr. Trump can’t get past his fury that critics claim his election was tainted by Russian interference. And so he couldn’t resist, in front of the world, going off on a solipsistic ramble about ‘Hillary Clinton’s emails’ and Democratic ‘servers.'” they wrote. “He can’t seem to figure out that the more he indulges his ego in this fashion, and the more he seems to indulge Mr. Putin, the more ammunition he gives to his opponents.”
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Old 07-19-2018, 10:12 AM   #17
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“The charitable explanation for this kowtow to the Kremlin is that Mr. Trump can’t get past his fury that critics claim his election was tainted by Russian interference. And so he couldn’t resist, in front of the world, going off on a solipsistic ramble about ‘Hillary Clinton’s emails’ and Democratic ‘servers.'” they wrote. “He can’t seem to figure out that the more he indulges his ego in this fashion, and the more he seems to indulge Mr. Putin, the more ammunition he gives to his opponents.”
I can actually agree with pretty much most of this.

What he should do to is explain to the American people that any Russian meddling had ZERO effect on the election. Not on any votes. Not on any attitudes towards the candidates. NOTHING.

And the reason for that is the simple fact that MOST of the American print, TV and internet media, along with some very powerful political figures (including President Obama), were throwing SERIOUS shade at Trump 24/7 during the campaign. That had to have 1,000,000x MORE influence on the election than anything the Russians could have possibly dreamed up.

Remember, youse guys claim there were all these GULLIBLE voters out there, Wal-Mart types, who fell for this Russian meddling. That's a pile of horseshit.

If ANYTHING, these smelly Wal-Mart types (according to Strzok anyway) do nothing but WATCH TV ALL DAY, and on TV, all they saw was NEGATIVITY about this narcissistic, overweight, orange, bad-hair, failure of a businessman, white supremacist douchebag asshole who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.

And you want to claim Russian meddling BEAT THAT behemoth?

Fat chance brutha.

Thank me very much.
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Old 07-19-2018, 11:09 AM   #18
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What he should do to is explain to the American people that any Russian meddling had ZERO effect on the election. Not on any votes. Not on any attitudes towards the candidates. NOTHING.
We do not know this yet. But he sure acts like they did.
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Old 07-19-2018, 11:33 AM   #19
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So, I must have missed this.
Trump was shown conclusive evidence that RUSSIANS did all this in our election?

That is unbeleevable!
And nothing was done about it???

Nothing by the SITTING PRESIDENT?

So, two things here -

0bama KNEW RUSSIANS hacked the DNC and he knew the DNC rigged the election by rigging the primaries...and he DID NOTHING? about either?

This is amazing.
Nothing is more sacred than out right to vote.
People who tamper with elections deserve to be put in prison.

People who REVEAL those actions should be thanked for revealing the truths American Presidents will not reveal.
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Old 07-19-2018, 01:57 PM   #20
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So, I must have missed this.
Trump was shown conclusive evidence that RUSSIANS did all this in our election?

That is unbeleevable!
And nothing was done about it???

Nothing by the SITTING PRESIDENT?
Hey banana boy, Trump was briefed 10 or so dys before he became the sitting preznut. He has been lying thru his Teeth since then
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/19/polit...ntv/index.html

Washington (CNN)Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper confirmed Thursday that Donald Trump was briefed on US intelligence findings that Russian President Vladimir Putin personally ordered cyberattacks to attempt to sway the 2016 presidential election.
Clapper told CNN's "New Day" that he and other intelligence officers briefed Trump, who was President-elect at the time, and his team on January 6, 2017.

And....

Obama expels 35 Russian diplomats in retaliation for US election hacking
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...a-election-hac


First published on Thu 29 Dec 2016 14.37 EST

The Obama administration on Thursday announced its retaliation for Russian efforts to interfere with the US presidential election, ordering sweeping new sanctions that included the expulsion of 35 Russians.
Syria ceasefire appears to hold after rivals sign Russia-backed deal

US intelligence services believe Russia ordered cyber-attacks on the Democratic National Committee (DNC), Hillary Clinton’s campaign and other political organizations, in an attempt to influence the election in favor of the Republican candidate, Donald Trump.k
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Old 07-19-2018, 02:10 PM   #21
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Obama expels 35 Russian diplomats in retaliation for US election hacking
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...a-election-hac


First published on Thu 29 Dec 2016 14.37 EST

The Obama administration on Thursday announced its retaliation for Russian efforts to interfere with the US presidential election, ordering sweeping new sanctions that included the expulsion of 35 Russians.
Syria ceasefire appears to hold after rivals sign Russia-backed deal

US intelligence services believe Russia ordered cyber-attacks on the Democratic National Committee (DNC), Hillary Clinton’s campaign and other political organizations, in an attempt to influence the election in favor of the Republican candidate, Donald Trump.k
Obama's action are akin to closing the barn door after all the animals have escaped. Obama did nothing to protect the integrity of the election and now all the dems and the media are trying to blame the current President for Obama's inaction.
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Hey banana boy, Trump was briefed 10 or so dys before he became the sitting preznut. He has been lying thru his Teeth since then
Hey, Mr. Personality.
I KNOW that.
THAT was in my post.
Operative word being "before."
He was not in office and could take NO action.
That was up the King of Kenya to do.

AFTER he took office.....


Trump expelled 60.


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Old 07-20-2018, 11:06 AM   #23
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INFOGRAPHIC: Alleged Russian Agent Mariia Butina’s Influence Operation
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckra...publican-party

Alleged Russian agent Mariia Butina was indicted this week on two very serious charges: conspiring against the U.S. and acting as an unregistered foreign agent.

But the influence campaign Butina allegedly carried out over the past few years was so brazen that it was almost comical. The 29-year-old essentially made her very own “Where’s Waldo?” series out of the 2016 GOP presidential campaign.

....As the Washington Post and others have documented, Russia used religion and guns to make inroads with the American conservative community. According to court documents, Butina also used sexual favors as a lure, allegedly offering sex for a position at a special interest organization.

Repugs and Cons will fall for anything....

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He said Washington Post!

Heh, heh heh, heh heh, heh

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Is the lefts argument that the Russians persuaded liberals to vote for trump?
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So the linkage between Butina and Trump is that she once asked him a question? Totally impeachable.
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Is the lefts argument that the Russians persuaded liberals to vote for trump?
You can't train a liberal.
It's not like they are dogs or something.
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You can't train a liberal.
It's not like they are dogs or something.
Maybe, they are like lily livered lizards.... ever hear of a trained lizard? Me neither.
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You can't train a liberal.
It's not like they are dogs or something.
I think I'd have to argue with that
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Is the lefts argument that the Russians persuaded liberals to vote for trump?
No, the Russians spread 'disinformation' causing many liberals to become so confused, they did not vote at all.
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