Training breakdown incident at Penn Natl - Horse Racing Forum - PaceAdvantage.Com

FantasticDan · 09-23-2011, 02:06 PM

..will hopefully result in policy reform:

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...lead-to-reform

Tom · 09-23-2011, 02:31 PM

Byk talked about this with Dr. Allday Thursday, Hour 2.

Seems to be simple fix - no traiing on the track unless a qualified vet is on the grounds. The horses race as professionals, it is high time the horsemen and tracks stepped up and acted the same.

Wingtips · 09-23-2011, 04:52 PM

Another example of a track's HBPA leadership asleep at the wheel in PA. An HPBA should have, through agreement with the track, a minimum common sense set of safety standards and protocals for horses and humans. Then the standards should be continually verified to ensure everyone's continued safety.

Remember the exercise rider who died on the track last year at Parx during early morning training hours because a qualified paramedic wasn't on the grounds? An ambulance was there, but the ambulance personnel were unqualified to perform the trauma treatment necessary and did not render trauma aid. A police officer wound up doing an emergency trach to no avail. The rider choked to death on his own blood.

Things can go horribly wrong every morning at a track with over 1000 horses. Any comment from President Beattie?

CryingForTheHorses · 09-23-2011, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom

Byk talked about this with Dr. Allday Thursday, Hour 2.

Seems to be simple fix - no traiing on the track unless a qualified vet is on the grounds. The horses race as professionals, it is high time the horsemen and tracks stepped up and acted the same.

This is the epitome of ignorance as far as Im concerned.This poor animal suffered endlessly and should have been put down right away.I have a hard time believing that there wasnt a vet at the track during training hours.At Calder in the mornings there are vets all over the place going to their clients barns, Every backside I have seen has vets.What the problem is the vets dont want to get involved because of lawsuits or maybe the trainer in question may have owed money .I have seen this happen at Calder.Dont believe for a minute that there wasnt any vets!!..The real problem is a vet is supposed to put the animal ahead of any monies when its life is in jeapordy.If I was the head of this place I would find out which vets were on the grounds at the time of this breakdown and kick them off the grounds.The trainer of this horse should also be questioned as to why it took so long..Lets hear the real story instead of a coverup!

firstoffclaim · 09-23-2011, 10:09 PM

All about the money as usual, Penn National should be ashamed of themselves, nobody should play that track anyway, but the sheer torture that horse felt for almost an hour is criminal

Shemp Howard · 09-23-2011, 11:50 PM

An incident Sept. 18 involving a filly who broke down during training at Hollywood Casino at Penn National Race Course and was not euthanized for about an hour could spark policy reform among state racing commissions and racetracks.

The 4-year-old filly Langfurs Answer fractured her lower leg, stumbled, and fell to the track during training at about 7:25 a.m. EDT, according to the Paulick Report. The exercise rider was thrown but uninjured.

Owner Enrique Alonso Jr., the son of the filly’s trainer, Enrique Alonso, was watching near the gap of the racetrack and rushed to the horse after she fell. A horse ambulance arrived quickly but a veterinarian could not be found on the grounds to euthanize the filly.

Read more: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...#ixzz1Yq1glSL5

toussaud · 09-23-2011, 11:58 PM

Penn National Ladies and Gentleman

that's one track you don't have to worry about me wagering on. Nothing surprises me there.

I am not a big "let's get the government in here guy" but if there was ever a track/business that needed Federal Government intervention that's it.

Tom · 09-24-2011, 10:15 AM

Tous, Penn used to be my favorite track - I played it everyday - more than any other. No more.

Hey, Tom....is it a rule or law that a vet MUST attend to any emergency?
This was bantered about by Byk and Allday.....seems a good idea.

CryingForTheHorses · 09-24-2011, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom

Tous, Penn used to be my favorite track - I played it everyday - more than any other. No more.

Hey, Tom....is it a rule or law that a vet MUST attend to any emergency?
This was bantered about by Byk and Allday.....seems a good idea.

I dont think it is either...A vet no matter who's horse it is should attend to any animal that has a injury and its life is at stake.Sad thing is vets are money grabbing bastards that look out for each other..If the trainer in question owed some vet ,It would be hard to get another vet to do anything for that trainer..Same goes for anything on the backside..If you owe any venders,Other venders will not do any work for you.I have seen horses down on this track and tons of vets on the grounds ,The first question asked is who's horse is it???..If the person who trains said horse owes money to a certain vet,NO other vet will respond..Sad but very true!!! The horse is then attended by the state vet...

toussaud · 09-24-2011, 12:01 PM

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/ra...-unacceptable/