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Old 08-05-2011, 10:38 AM   #1
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Guess America is growing tired of Tea

According to a report in the Huffington Post
"The public’s opinion of the Tea Party movement has soured in the wake of the debt-ceiling debate. The Tea Party is now viewed unfavorably by 40 percent of the public and favorably by just 20 percent, according to the poll. In mid-April 29 percent of those polled viewed the movement unfavorably, while 26 percent viewed it favorably. And 43 percent of Americans now think the Tea Party has too much influence on the Republican Party, up from 27 percent in mid-April."

Wolf in sheeps clothing. If the real tea party members will please step forward, now to save your party, you are about to sucked in by the Republicans. Saw this coming a mile away. Is their going to a splinter group that can actually save your ideals?
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Old 08-05-2011, 11:01 AM   #2
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The biased reporting by the lame steam media have no basis in fact.

No "TP" I know have any regrets nor second thoughts about the movement. The fact that both parties are trying to demonize the TP and blame the whole budget mess on them is proof enough - they see the writing on the wall. I admire the refusal to compromise their principals and renege on their promise to the voters. I reject the premise that there is any problem with the TP.

We intend to forge ahead and take more seats each election and eventually become the majority of the republican party.

The party is nothing more than a vehicle.
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Old 08-05-2011, 11:09 AM   #3
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The biased reporting by the lame steam media have no basis in fact.

No "TP" I know have any regrets nor second thoughts about the movement. The fact that both parties are trying to demonize the TP and blame the whole budget mess on them is proof enough - they see the writing on the wall. I admire the refusal to compromise their principals and renege on their promise to the voters. I reject the premise that there is any problem with the TP.

We intend to forge ahead and take more seats each election and eventually become the majority of the republican party.

The party is nothing more than a vehicle.
Tom, again, I am your side, but who side is Boehner on?
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Old 08-05-2011, 11:17 AM   #4
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If one accepts the premise that 90% of elected Democrats and Republicans are a bunch of lying, stealing, egotistical bastards then the demonization of the TP by the left and right and by the MSM makes complete sense. The TP may ,in time, become like the other two parties, but at least for now they are representing their constituents, unlike the Dims and Pugs.
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Old 08-05-2011, 11:20 AM   #5
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Looks like the country is finally starting to notice the despicable 'our way or the highway' attitude of the reckless teabagger children in the House.

Gotta admit, tho, it was hilarious watching them make a horse's ass out of Teary Eyes Boehner during that whole debt ceiling debacle that they created...
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Old 08-05-2011, 11:21 AM   #6
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According to a report in the Huffington Post
Do you have a less partisan reference than that?
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Old 08-05-2011, 11:28 AM   #7
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the only polls that matter are held in the election booths. there has only been one national election since the formation of the tea party concept, and the scale of victory was historic.

in 2012 you will see another spanking when Democrats lose the senate and the presidency.

until then take your uncited references to polling data in the Huffing&Puffingpost with a big grain of salt.
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Old 08-05-2011, 11:36 AM   #8
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What do you call a poor republican?
A Tea Bagger.
I am not in the movement (In fact I have substantial disagreements with it), But I think that your attempt at a joke completely mischaracterizes. Most people that I know in the tea party movement cannot be called poor.
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Old 08-05-2011, 11:40 AM   #9
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America prefers tea to kool-aid

haha, you missed this from the same poll.

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…The president’s overall job approval rating remained relatively stable, with 48 percent approving of the way he handles his job as president and 47 percent disapproving
So Tea party disapproval is at 40%
Obama's disapproval is at 47%
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Old 08-05-2011, 11:42 AM   #10
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I am not in the movement (In fact I have substantial disagreements with it), But I think that your attempt at a joke completely mischaracterizes. Most people that I know in the tea party movement cannot be called poor.
You are right and I removed the post. Sorry for ruffling any feathers.
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Old 08-05-2011, 12:09 PM   #11
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haha, you missed this from the same poll.



So Tea party disapproval is at 40%
Obama's disapproval is at 47%
So you are happy that your favor has fallen less than Obama.

"Steven Hess, a veteran Republican staffer and a political analyst in the Brookings Institution think tank, said Republicans, who have a 49-seat majority in the House, could lose control of the chamber next year.
"You will have exposed candidates and an enlarged electorate," Hess said. "The Tea Party is a relatively fragile movement. People have already lost interest in it and are getting irritated with it."

So you guys will hold Washington hostage till the election and then stymie anything that will go through Congress for the next 4 years that is not a pet project. Classy. You guys don't get it. Until there is reform in the financial markets nothing will ever change and you guys are more worried about cutting spending and taxes that you don't even care if our money is safe. Call your party anything you want, and I agree with the idea and concept of responsible government, I just see very little lasting integrity within those who have made it to Washington. Study your political history, no third party has ever lasted without compromising itself. The Tea Party is already loosing popularity because it the same old song and dance. False promises and power mongering.
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Old 08-05-2011, 03:50 PM   #12
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The attempts to marginalize the Tea Party reached a frenzy after they showed their clout at the polls in 2010. If not for their presence in the debt ceiling negotiations the spender in chief would have had a hell of a lot more Obama Bucks to shovel out. Here is a suggestion: When you use the phrase "held hostage" you need to follow it with "gun to their head". This puts you in lock step with such as the illustrious Van Jones. The only ones tired of the tea are the liberals. And that is a crying shame,,,,
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So you are happy that your favor has fallen less than Obama.

"Steven Hess, a veteran Republican staffer and a political analyst in the Brookings Institution think tank, said Republicans, who have a 49-seat majority in the House, could lose control of the chamber next year.
"You will have exposed candidates and an enlarged electorate," Hess said. "The Tea Party is a relatively fragile movement. People have already lost interest in it and are getting irritated with it."

So you guys will hold Washington hostage till the election and then stymie anything that will go through Congress for the next 4 years that is not a pet project. Classy. You guys don't get it. Until there is reform in the financial markets nothing will ever change and you guys are more worried about cutting spending and taxes that you don't even care if our money is safe. Call your party anything you want, and I agree with the idea and concept of responsible government, I just see very little lasting integrity within those who have made it to Washington. Study your political history, no third party has ever lasted without compromising itself. The Tea Party is already loosing popularity because it the same old song and dance. False promises and power mongering.
you seem very misinformed and biased against the tea party for some reason.
it is not a third party, I don't know where you got that.
there is no chance of the republicans losing the house. bank on it.

I don't get these comments like yours about holding washington hostage. please explain how the tea party is holding washington hostage. what do you see going through Harry Reid and being signed by Obama in the next two years that is an important bill that must be signed because it represents significant reform? hmmm? of course they need to be stymied because they have passed one shit sandwich after another. anything constructive or any true sensible reform is not going to happen until Obama is gone and democrats far from power.

yes the financial markets need reform, hehe, what about Dodd-Frank.
what makes you think the tea party disagrees with reforming the market.

be specific about a lack of integrity, you talk in generalities about hostage taking and integrity, but I don't see any of that so you'll need to cite the specific instances with integrity, and how its a greater problem with the tea party group than any of the others.
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Tom, again, I am your side, but who side is Boehner on?
His own side, as are most on either side of the aisle.
Boehner has nothing to do with TP. He is the enemy.

And the polls, - why in hell would I care what a bunch of RINOs and Libs think of the TP? I hope that rating goes lower and lower - it means we are doing our jobs. The more "they" hate us, the more different we are from them.

Remember, the libs were solidly behind McCaine in the beginning.
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Look, I am totally for the tea-party ideals and unlike Van Jones, I have never gotten paid by the taxpayers not a dime of unemployment when I was unemployed for 3 months last year. In referring to the term held-hostage, any gridllock at all in Washington will be the death of this country. This is the time to act and all the posturing for power is not being perceived as positive. The debt ceiling debates were nothing but smoke and mirrors to lead us away from the real problem that Washington and both parties have been fleecing us for years and there is no money to bail "them" out again.
Again I am for the tea party, but it is time to turn it up a notch. I want the power to return to the states as Washington is utterly out of touch with its people. I call for the states to convene conventions and push legislation to protect us from Washington. I call for an Anti-Federalist party revival. The national system is broke and since Washington and the left wing nuts want to make America a socialist country and the Conservatives want to be martyred for saving us, it is time for a new party "the Commons"
On 10 June 1789, Abbé Sieyès moved that the Third Estate, now meeting as the Communes (English: "Commons"), proceed with verification of its own powers and invite the other two estates to take part, but not to wait for them. They proceeded to do so two days later, completing the process on 17 June.[22] Then they voted a measure far more radical, declaring themselves the National Assembly, an assembly not of the Estates but of "the People." They invited the other orders to join them, but made it clear they intended to conduct the nation's affairs with or without them.[23]

I am ready for the revolution, all the waste in Washington needs flushed.
People like Nikki Haley should be making important decisions, not Harry Reid, or Boehner or Obama. The power needs to come back to the states and let my tax dollars work for me locally. I am still very bitter about the Supreme Courts decision in Watters V Wachovia that circumvented all the abilities for the states to protect it's citizens from the predatory lenders. Look at the explosion of banks that knocked each other over to get to us after the cowardly judges put our necks out on the chopping block.
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