Religion II

[Show Me the Wire]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Exactly...so I'm not getting why it would be such a burden to be an atheist.

Never answer your door to the unexpected and your problem is solved

Sometimes common sense is not so common.

[Light]

Originally Posted by boxcar

But this doesn't mean that the majority of clergy are hypocrites. It it only takes a relatively few rotten apples to spoil the barrel and get the godless world's attention.

Define "few". There is no hard data on sexual abuse in the Church. But an estimate I saw back in 2002 by the Center for prevention of sexual and Domestic Abuse had the stat OF 15% FOR SEXUAL MISCONDUCT IN ALL RELIGIONS. I would not say that is a "few bad apples". Another study had 70% of clergy knowing someone else in the clergy who was guilty of sexual misconduct.

I can guarantee you male priests have to whack off whether they want to or not. And that action will be accompanied by sexual fantasies.

This is natural. What is not natural is believing it is not natural and going against one's biological needs. It is required by Mother Nature to rid one's self of the excess semen that gets stored in your balls. Your body will trigger sexual hormones for sex in order to make you ejaculate it.

The denominations that allow priests to be married are much more sensible in this area. You can have sex and love God too.

If God created us in his image, he certainly has nothing against sex. It is man's stupidity that makes it "forbidden" not God.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Exactly...so I'm not getting why it would be such a burden to be an atheist.

Never answer your door to the unexpected and your problem is solved

I wouldn't say that an "atheist" carries a "burden"...but I would CERTAINLY say that he/she wouldn't get elected PRESIDENT anytime soon.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Light

It is required by Mother Nature to rid one's self of the excess semen that gets stored in your balls.

Well, this is dead wrong right off the bat.

And have you ever heard of wet dreams, my friend.

Boy this thread has taken a rather nasty turn.

A lot more people than we think who go into the Catholic clergy are "running away" from something, not towards something. Not sure what this actually means or implies, but I thought I'd throw it out there. I guess what I'm saying is, it doesn't surprise me that sexual deviants run towards the Catholic clergy as a means of trying to control their deviancy.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by boxcar

The only reason the clergy get into the news is because they are clergy who got caught with their pants down. But this doesn't mean that the majority of clergy are hypocrites. It it only takes a relatively few rotten apples to spoil the barrel and get the godless world's attention. Therefore, this doesn't change the fact that the faithful preachers of the gospel do indeed remain faithful in practice to what they're preaching.

When "a few priests" commit heinous sex crimes, and they are exposed and appropriately punished once discovered...then we could say that the "Church" could be absolved of the blame stemming from the criminal acts of the "few". But...when "MANY priests" commit sexual crimes of the WORST kind...and the church "higher-ups" COVER UP these heinous acts...then the church leadership carries just as much of the blame as the criminal priests do. And the WHOLE religion sect is diminished...IMO.

[PaceAdvantage]

boxcar has nothing but despise for the RCC, so you're preaching to the choir there, I think

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

boxcar has nothing but despise for the RCC, so you're preaching to the choir there, I think

I have nothing but despise for the RCC too...so, Boxcar and I agree there.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Light

If God created us in his image, he certainly has nothing against sex. It is man's stupidity that makes it "forbidden" not God.

What does being created in God's image have to with God having nothing against sex?

I would proffer that your god is stupid if he allows any and all sex.

[Light]

Originally Posted by Light

It is required by Mother Nature to rid one's self of the excess semen that gets stored in your balls.

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Well, this is dead wrong right off the bat.

And have you ever heard of wet dreams, my friend.

Yes, that's why we get "wet dreams", to get rid of excess semen. Or else you have to whack off. Ask a urologist.

[Light]

Originally Posted by boxcar

What does being created in God's image have to with God having nothing against sex?

I would proffer that your god is stupid if he allows any and all sex.

God allows sex for pleasure. But when sex is used to hurt someone else then it becomes a weapon. This is when it goes against God.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Light

Yes, that's why we get "wet dreams", to get rid of excess semen. Or else you have to whack off. Ask a urologist.

Semen isn't stored in the balls. Thus my "wrong" comment.

Figured a bright guy like you wouldn't make such a rookie mistake.

I can't believe we're having this conversation.

[Hank]

Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire

Actor stated:



Agreed. They did not see them as equals.

Interesting,Doesn't this reveal the hypocrisy of all their flowery rhetoric about "God" and "Christianity. DEEDS not WORDS reveal truth.So in reality their true religion was "white supremacy" and their true God was "Money".

[Hank]

Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire

Actor stated:



Agreed. They did not see them as equals.

Interesting,Doesn't this reveal the hypocrisy of their flowery rhetoric about "God" and "Christianity. DEEDS not WORDS reveal truth.So in reality their true religion was "white supremacy" and their true God was "Money".

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

When "a few priests" commit heinous sex crimes, and they are exposed and appropriately punished once discovered...then we could say that the "Church" could be absolved of the blame stemming from the criminal acts of the "few". But...when "MANY priests" commit sexual crimes of the WORST kind...and the church "higher-ups" COVER UP these heinous acts...then the church leadership carries just as much of the blame as the criminal priests do. And the WHOLE religion sect is diminished...IMO.

The RCC is a huge problem unto itself, mainly brought on by its man-made religious tradition of celibacy. Couple this with other traditions, such the mass and young altar boys being recruited into service for this ritual, and the church has created a ready-made recipe for rampant sexual perversion. However, this being said doesn't detract from what scripture teaches about proper and improper sexual conduct. All sexual activity outside of the God-ordained institution of marriage is sinful in God's eyes.

[Light]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Semen isn't stored in the balls. Thus my "wrong" comment.

Figured a bright guy like you wouldn't make such a rookie mistake.

I can't believe we're having this conversation.

You're right. Sperm are stored in the balls. But one feels the urge to come in the balls, because of the tube that connects the balls and the area where the semen is stored.