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Old 05-13-2020, 02:42 PM   #1
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I was talking about this since day 1...glad to see others coming around

https://dnyuz.com/2020/05/12/manhatt...omes-the-norm/

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But now, as the pandemic eases its grip, companies are considering not just how to safely bring back employees, but whether all of them need to come back at all. They were forced by the crisis to figure out how to function productively with workers operating from home — and realized unexpectedly that it was not all bad.

If that’s the case, they are now wondering whether it’s worth continuing to spend as much money on Manhattan’s exorbitant commercial rents. They are also mindful that public health considerations might make the packed workplaces of the recent past less viable.
Yeah...no shit...if you're into commercial real estate, COVID-19 has basically ruined that sector of the economy forever IMO

It was probably going to happen eventually...but this just accelerated the process.
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Old 05-13-2020, 03:12 PM   #2
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The reason people like to live and work in NYC is because of the restaurants, sports areanas, theaters, erc., as well as the public transportation.

If people cannot use those safely, then, commercial rents will be the least of their problems.
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Old 05-13-2020, 03:12 PM   #3
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Yeah...no shit...if you're into commercial real estate, COVID-19 has basically ruined that sector of the economy forever IMO

It was probably going to happen eventually...but this just accelerated the process.
My colleagues and I were discussing this article today, most of us want more telecommuting though some not too crazy. This will be a big, big deal. Here's another company changing;

https://fortune.com/2020/05/11/perma...e-fortune-100/
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Old 05-13-2020, 03:33 PM   #4
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Is there a chiropractor in the house?

Hold on there, big guy, you don't want to get a stiff neck from patting yourself on the back.
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Old 05-13-2020, 03:35 PM   #5
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Hold on there, big guy, you don't want to get a stiff neck from patting yourself on the back.
Nothing to pat.

It's all common sense...like it's always been.

It's the naive among us who thought, when this all started, it's just a giant party and excuse to binge NetFlix...then everything will get back to normal after a few weeks.

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Old 05-13-2020, 03:48 PM   #6
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Nothing to pat.

It's all common sense...like it's always been.

It's the naive among us who thought, when this all started, it's just a giant party and excuse to binge NetFlix...then everything will get back to normal after a few weeks.

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you have no idea...still...and neither do I...
Would you be shocked to know that I agree with most of what you have written re: this problem (sans the hysterical tone, natch)?.Nothing good, bad or indifferent lasts forever, however.

And I don't have Netflix.
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Old 05-13-2020, 05:19 PM   #8
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And people will soon realize that college tuition is 100% RIDICULOUS and having a brick and mortar school is not required for much of it.

Same for business travel.

In fact, the internet is proving itself to be a damn good replacement for a lot of things we used to think important.

WE should provide FREE internet to all, including Zoom-like software.

What's another tril or two?
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And people will soon realize that college tuition is 100% RIDICULOUS and having a brick and mortar school is not required for much of it.



I tell my professor neighbor that if it is this easy to set up distance learning then how long till we realize that the world only needs one intro to poetry professor for the whole country.
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I tell my professor neighbor that if it is this easy to set up distance learning then how long till we realize that the world only needs one intro to poetry professor for the whole country.
You can learn just about anything for free by using the internet, youtube, or your local library -- if you've got the motivation.

A college degree only proves to your employer that you finish what you started.

If you're an entrepreneur you're better off saving the $100k or $200k you'd spend on college and putting it into your business. Plus, if you go bankrupt you can walk away from your debts. If you go bankrupt with student loan debt you still have to pay it back.

The best thing about college is the social interaction and the networking -- especially if you go to an Ivy League school. Then it's all about being a member of the club. Just having an Ivy League degree will open up doors.
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Old 05-13-2020, 05:50 PM   #11
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Yeah...no shit...if you're into commercial real estate, COVID-19 has basically ruined that sector of the economy forever IMO

It was probably going to happen eventually...but this just accelerated the process.
NYC real estate is cyclical. It will come back. It's still the most desirable city in the world. The cure for low prices is low prices.
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Old 05-13-2020, 07:29 PM   #12
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Yeah...no shit...if you're into commercial real estate, COVID-19 has basically ruined that sector of the economy forever IMO

It was probably going to happen eventually...but this just accelerated the process.
And we probably can say good-bye, too, to movie theaters -- perhaps even to the performing arts altogether.
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Another thing, guys: This has to be the demise of the porn industry. Sex by social distancing ain't goin' to cut it for most. And face masks? Really? All those out of work porn stars are going to have find real work.
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Old 05-13-2020, 08:28 PM   #14
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perhaps even to the performing arts altogether.
Pretty rich, considering the politics of the source.
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Another thing, guys: This has to be the demise of the porn industry. Sex by social distancing ain't goin' to cut it for most. And face masks? Really? All those out of work porn stars are going to have find real work.
If HIV didn't stop them then covid is not going to stop them
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