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06-11-2023, 09:15 PM
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He's been given many too chances to clean up his act---are they waiting for him to kill someone---feel sorry for him but enough is enough
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06-12-2023, 12:02 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Beaverdam Virginia
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Originally Posted by cj
Embarrassing to let this guy keep riding. What would happen to a NASCAR driver that showed up for a race drunk?
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
Great analogy………they disappear.
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Nascar pretty much has a zero tolerance on substance abuse, it seems there are no second chances, no amount of lawyers has beaten them yet.
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06-12-2023, 10:17 AM
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clean money
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Maryland
Posts: 23,559
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life can be hard sometimes.
Most of us feel like if we were a successful jockey, that we wouldn't self-medicate or abuse substances.
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06-12-2023, 11:01 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
life can be hard sometimes.
Most of us feel like if we were a successful jockey, that we wouldn't self-medicate or abuse substances.
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I've always thought a justifiable fear factor more enters the mindset of riders, even successful swaggering ones, than they admit. Race riding no question provides a thrill, a particular sort of thrill that no person my size could ever, I'm sure, even dream of. But it also is dangerous. Extremely dangerous. Jocks know this. And in lots of cases, it DOES play on their minds.
I'm sure the risk factors into turbulent lifestyles and sometimes poor choices. Maybe that's why I rarely buy into human-profile features, sometimes preceding prominent races, that paint pictures of calmness and bliss, as if the featured jock were some money manager or corporate executive, serene, composed, and nurturing away from work.
The wealth, trappings, and loving family can all be in place, but in these cases, daddy can die the next day. And WILL sometime fall, in traffic, from a speeding 1,000 lb beast. It's inevitable.
So I salute any race rider who can set that aside, not self-medicate or act out, and maintain good semblance of a normal existence. It can't always be easy.
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06-12-2023, 09:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mountainman
I've always thought a justifiable fear factor more enters the mindset of riders, even successful swaggering ones, than they admit. Race riding no question provides a thrill, a particular sort of thrill that no person my size could ever, I'm sure, even dream of. But it also is dangerous. Extremely dangerous. Jocks know this. And in lots of cases, it DOES play on their minds.
I'm sure the risk factors into turbulent lifestyles and sometimes poor choices. Maybe that's why I rarely buy into human-profile features, sometimes preceding prominent races, that paint pictures of calmness and bliss, as if the featured jock were some money manager or corporate executive, serene, composed, and nurturing away from work.
The wealth, trappings, and loving family can all be in place, but in these cases, daddy can die the next day. And WILL sometime fall, in traffic, from a speeding 1,000 lb beast. It's inevitable.
So I salute any race rider who can set that aside, not self-medicate or act out, and maintain good semblance of a normal existence. It can't always be easy.
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I agree with what you said 100% but a lot of people are in a profession and may never come home e.g. police/fireman to name a few---I'm just sick and tired of giving him numerous chances and he is still fucking up--I wish him well but he doesn't belong on a race track--are they waiting for him to kill a horse or fellow riders--I know in baseball 3 strikes and you're out--what is the excuse here
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06-13-2023, 10:12 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 4,668
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Originally Posted by Cutter14
I agree with what you said 100% but a lot of people are in a profession and may never come home e.g. police/fireman to name a few---I'm just sick and tired of giving him numerous chances and he is still fucking up--I wish him well but he doesn't belong on a race track--are they waiting for him to kill a horse or fellow riders--I know in baseball 3 strikes and you're out--what is the excuse here
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I get it. Completely. And in his instance don't disagree. It's just that I've always admired jocks that manage to make peace with the looming danger while maintaining a normal "nuclear" family existence.
For the most part, though, they don't do the pipe and slippers thing while Fido fetches the paper.
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06-13-2023, 01:30 PM
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clean money
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Maryland
Posts: 23,559
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mountainman
I've always thought a justifiable fear factor more enters the mindset of riders, even successful swaggering ones, than they admit. Race riding no question provides a thrill, a particular sort of thrill that no person my size could ever, I'm sure, even dream of. But it also is dangerous. Extremely dangerous. Jocks know this. And in lots of cases, it DOES play on their minds.
I'm sure the risk factors into turbulent lifestyles and sometimes poor choices. Maybe that's why I rarely buy into human-profile features, sometimes preceding prominent races, that paint pictures of calmness and bliss, as if the featured jock were some money manager or corporate executive, serene, composed, and nurturing away from work.
The wealth, trappings, and loving family can all be in place, but in these cases, daddy can die the next day. And WILL sometime fall, in traffic, from a speeding 1,000 lb beast. It's inevitable.
So I salute any race rider who can set that aside, not self-medicate or act out, and maintain good semblance of a normal existence. It can't always be easy.
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Thank you for a closer perspective.
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06-17-2023, 10:28 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 269
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you can only hope he cares to ride the day you bet him.
i've watched him give horrendous rides, and he didnt even seem to care
very dangerous betting on kent, is he clean, is he sober?
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06-19-2023, 10:10 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Toronto
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He's riding really well on turf right now.
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