Aug 20 6:26 PM [Rook] WEG should be punished for their press release.. that was beyone outrageous
Aug 20 6:27 PM [betchatoo] AP is my home track but I have no argument with laying off for the rest of the meet
Aug 20 6:27 PM [stuball] we can only punish them 1 way
Aug 20 6:28 PM [betovernetcapper] thankyou betcha
Aug 20 6:28 PM [stuball] I will feel like a traitor on Sept 8th I am signed on for their contest
Aug 20 6:28 PM [betovernetcapper] stuball take the money but don't smile
Aug 20 6:28 PM [stuball] but will be contest plays only
Aug 20 6:29 PM [speedking] I'll be happy to help you take their money...And Run!
Aug 20 6:29 PM [stuball] That's the plan
Aug 20 6:29 PM [Southieboy] Details?
Aug 20 6:30 PM [speedking] Still a work in progress. I'm guessing that this will be the first of a few discussions
Aug 20 6:30 PM [stuball] would like to win AP and win Vegas and get a Million bonus from Ap
Aug 20 6:30 PM [betovernetcapper] just don't smile
Aug 20 6:31 PM [speedking] I'd love to see you win it Stu! And then make your statement!
Aug 20 6:31 PM [stuball] no smile
6:31 PM [betovernetcapper] got a domain name today
6:31 PM [speedking] What days does ALB run? YAV also...
6:32 PM [Southieboy] I know Saturdays
6:32 PM [BillW]
http://calendar.ntraracing.com/
6:32 PM [stuball] Alb runs some QH during the week I know
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6:33 PM [speedking] Want a donation or is it premature?
6:33 PM [stuball] I could check I have it in my records
6:33 PM [Alberich] ALB wed,fri-sun YAV fri-tue
6:33 PM [melman] Assiniboia also ANY Canadian track that will work with PTC
6:33 PM [Rook] yeah ASD gets only about $130k in handle... we could really boost that
6:33 PM [betovernetcapper] AP & ALB seem to run same days
6:34 PM [Rook] especially since they are probably risking the wrath of WEB by dealing with PTC
6:34 PM [stuball] depends if PTC has adecent deal with ASD
6:34 PM [stuball] we want to help them also
6:34 PM [betovernetcapper] If PTC isn't worried
6:34 PM [Rook] yeah, ASD should do better than 7.5%
6:35 PM [Rook] the rebate at NP is generous
6:35 PM [betovernetcapper] NOONE has asked about my new domain name
6:36 PM [Rook] what is it?
6:36 PM [stuball] well we are waiting
6:36 PM [speedking] CJ got me going on ASD recently. Deserves consideration...Just wonder if the rest of the board will support us with these smaller venues?
6:36 PM [betovernetcapper] bocotttracknet.com
6:36 PM [betchatoo] Suggestion: why don't we start a thread and put a suggested weekend to support ALB and boycott WOX. We can ask who will go along with it and that will give us a feeling for the strength of people really willing to do something
6:37 PM [Rook] the sooner the better
6:37 PM [stuball] right don't let the fire get cold
6:37 PM [betovernetcapper] I really think we need to highlight AP
6:37 PM [speedking] For the current contest, I'm sure Ian could select these tracks as the races of record to generate more interest and it would help increase attention
6:38 PM [Southieboy] are you nuts?
6:38 PM [betovernetcapper] ??
6:39 PM [speedking] What the hell do you mean Southieboy? I don't get it?
6:39 PM [betovernetcapper] yes???
6:39 PM [speedking] OK< back to business
6:40 PM [betchatoo] I had suggested WOX as the one to boycott simply because it has gained so much ill will over the last week
6:41 PM [betovernetcapper] Boycott WO &AP puch ALB & LAD
6:41 PM [Rook] So far it seems their are 2 targets: WEG and AP and a few worth supporting ALB, YAV, NP and LAD
6:41 PM [stuball] can weaffect their handle that seems to be the question
6:41 PM [betovernetcapper] AP is tracknet and the real target
6:42 PM [stuball] I vote to target AP neg and Alb positive
6:42 PM [Rook] thei is no question we can affect the small tracks handle in a positive way. I'd be happy to add a few percent to a place like ALB each day
6:42 PM [speedking] Boycotting WO and AP is almost a no brainer at this point whether it's official or not. Might be best to select ONLY 1 small track per day and concentrate on building their handle
6:43 PM [betchatoo] Agreed
6:43 PM [betovernetcapper] ditto
6:43 PM [stuball] me too
6:43 PM [speedking] Can this discussion be saved and posted anywhere?
6:43 PM [Rook] it has to be official
6:44 PM [melman] maybe someone can contact the race sec at ALB he is a PA board member
6:44 PM [BillW] Mike can grab a transcript, I believe, but he is still in Saratoga
6:44 PM [Southieboy] why don't we start a posted thread
6:44 PM [melman] give him a heads up
6:44 PM [stuball] should we set this for this weekend?
6:44 PM [speedking] Easily done, Melman
6:44 PM [BillW] I'm not sure how much time he needs to grab it
6:44 PM [betchatoo] I'm fine with this weekend
6:45 PM [Southieboy] Why don't we do it BC day?
6:45 PM [betovernetcapper] boycot tommorow
6:45 PM [betchatoo] Too far away
6:45 PM [Rook] this should not be a one day thing... it should be everyday until things change
6:45 PM [BillW] yes, incl BC day
6:45 PM [stuball] weekend would give casual players a chance to participate
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6:46 PM [betovernetcapper] play when they can
6:46 PM [speedking] I'm in favor of a weekend or Fri start. Today is Monday. It gives us time to notify the proper people and really get the board involved and motivated
6:46 PM [betovernetcapper] play when they can
6:46 PM [speedking] I'm in favor of a weekend or Fri start. Today is Monday. It gives us time to notify the proper people and really get the board involved and motivated
6:46 PM [statik27] wow, standing room only
6:47 PM [Southieboy] Nothing important runs tommorow (tuesday)*alarm2*
6:47 PM [betchatoo] ANd it's fast enough that the movement doesn't die from lack of action
6:47 PM [speedking] Many of us have industry and media contacts who will be interested
6:47 PM [stuball] how about another meeting tomorrow
6:47 PM [Southieboy]
6:47 PM [melman] sounds good speedking the race sec at ALB sounds like a good guy
6:47 PM [Rook] it would be great if someone artistic came up with a logo
6:48 PM [Southieboy] yes another meeting tommorow sounds good, lets see how far we can go today!
6:48 PM [BillW]
6:48 PM [BillW] how 'bout that?
6:48 PM [speedking] Super!
6:48 PM [betovernetcapper] Can someone contact the IRB and notify them of the boycott
6:49 PM [speedking] Yes
6:49 PM [statik27] who are we boycotting?
6:49 PM [statik27] sorry I got hung up today, what I miss?
6:49 PM [betovernetcapper] AP
6:49 PM [speedking] AP...WO
6:49 PM [BillW] BTW, I'm getting a transcript from 6:26 PM when I logged in
6:49 PM [Alberich] you mean Illinois HBPA
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6:49 PM [Southieboy] What's that suppost to mean? Any chance of of doing Suffolk?
6:49 PM [Rook] AP and WO... this much their is a consensus
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6:50 PM [statik27] good, WO gets on my nerves
6:50 PM [stuball] stu is in the house
6:50 PM [Southieboy] I got frozed out
6:50 PM [stuball] are you the sec at Alb?
6:50 PM [melman] Alberich---You mean the Ill Racing Board that "advised" Ian he should have lied on his contract so as to get Balmoral on the PTC track list
6:50 PM [betovernetcapper] Who will notify the IRB and HBPA
6:51 PM [stu] yes I am the racing secretary at ALB- just observing tonight
6:51 PM [Southieboy] How are we going to do this with out pp's for the track?
6:51 PM [betovernetcapper] we'll manage
6:51 PM [stuball] We are willing to support you.....can you publicize any increases in handle
6:52 PM [speedking] I can contact them...Half the industry dislikes me already
6:52 PM [betovernetcapper] you da man
6:52 PM [Alberich] no - Jim Hannon, the simulcast director at BAL/MAY told Ian he should of lied
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6:53 PM [stu] sure - we have been averaging 160K but handled 200K yesterday
6:53 PM [melman] crazy racing industry Alberich would like to see Balmoral Maywood with PTC
6:53 PM [statik27] Are we going to switch up the tracks week to week, becuase I'm sorry to say that ALB isn't a track I personally have available to me.
6:53 PM [speedking] WOW, we do work fast!
6:53 PM [Alberich] so would we
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6:54 PM [melman] it's just plain nuts you guys at PTC had HAW harness
6:54 PM [betchatoo] Name the track and by God I'll bet it!
6:54 PM [melman] that's in ILL
6:55 PM [Alberich] HAW has always - back many years- been easy to deal with
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6:55 PM [betovernetcapper] I bet Haw over AP anyday
6:55 PM [betovernetcapper] I'd bet FP over AP
6:56 PM [melman] my point being see how just plain stupid the racing industry is Balmoral AP Maywood and HAW all in the same state
6:56 PM [speedking] Well, we laid the basics out and set a direction. Want to give it a day...make a few moves and meet tomorrow night...Same time...Same place?
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6:56 PM [Rook] stu.. I'm going make sure I have substantial money in all your ALB thorougbred races
6:56 PM [melman] one is "friendly" namely HAW and the others hard to deal with
6:56 PM [Alberich] different ownership
6:57 PM [betovernetcapper] tommorow 6pm central?
6:57 PM [BillW] sounds good
6:57 PM [stuball] sounds good
6:57 PM [melman] Alberich---sounds like HAW has GOOD ownership
6:57 PM [stuball] publicize on the board
6:57 PM [melman] they should run the rest of the state's tracks
6:58 PM [Alberich]
6:58 PM [speedking] Anyone know what side some of these racing writers come down on? I know quite a few and have email addresses
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6:58 PM [melman] betovernet-----there is a good idea I think
6:58 PM [melman] talk up HAW
6:58 PM [Alberich] DRF is in tracknets pocket
6:58 PM [melman] talk down AP Balmoral Maywood
6:58 PM [statik27] had to say what the Players magazines will do
6:59 PM [melman] point out HAW is Player friendly
6:59 PM [statik27] we're kinda messing with their money
6:59 PM [speedking] As we close out can anyone copy all this and post it to a thread? Right from the beginning?
6:59 PM [stuball] BillW is all over that Right Bill?
6:59 PM [BillW] I got it from 6:26
7:00 PM [BillW] when I logged in
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7:00 PM [betovernetcapper] that when it got good Oh BTW, I called the Jockey Club today to leave a mesage for Alan Marzelli
7:00 PM [betovernetcapper] the president to say thanks for yesterdays speech
7:01 PM [stuball] ok see yaall tomorrow
7:01 PM [betovernetcapper] just left a mesage and got a call back about an hour later
7:01 PM [speedking] Thanks for all the hard work and ideas!
7:01 PM [BillW] who returned call?
7:02 PM [speedking] What kind of response?
7:02 PM [betchatoo] I'll try to be here tomorrow
7:02 PM [betovernetcapper] Alan Maraelli
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7:02 PM [Southieboy] What time Eastern?
7:02 PM [BillW] good!
7:02 PM [BillW] 7:00
7:02 PM [BillW] EDST
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7:03 PM [BillW] 5:00 MDST 4:00 PDST
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7:03 PM [betovernetcapper] Nice guy talked for about 5-10 min and I really think he gets it
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7:03 PM [BillW] great! - good to hear someone does
7:03 PM [speedking] That is good news and I have to admit being surprised
7:03 PM [Southieboy] Will there be a thread of what we posted here today?
7:03 PM [BillW] yes
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7:05 PM [betovernetcapper] OK goodnight guys
7:06 PM [BillW] later
7:06 PM [speedking] I never have posted in the selections thread, but I'll try and do a weekend workup for whatever smaller venue we select
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7:06 PM [BillW] that would be a good idea - get others involved
7:06 PM [Southieboy] Try to make it one of the early afternoon tracks that I can watch
7:07 PM [speedking] Hope so, Bill...Anything to generate interest
7:08 PM [speedking] Have a good night all...Will definitely give this some thought.
7:08 PM [BillW] good night guys
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7:15 PM [bobbyb] Hi Bill - How are You? Sorry I got in late - takin' care of my mom - can you tell me what time and when we are getting together next.
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7:17 PM [BillW] Hey Bobbyb, tomorrow 7:00 EDST
7:17 PM [bobbyb] Thanks Bill
7:17 PM [BillW] I'll have a transcript up
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7:18 PM [bobbyb] Great - I tried to get in earlier but no such luck today - Hopefully tomorrow will be better. Thanks Bill
7:19 PM [BillW] Transcript ends here - goodnight guys
