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We do have pretty strong evidence for collusion with the Russians. An aspiring presidential candidate DID seek electoral help from Moscow.
Wrong election, however.
Ted Kennedy's Soviet Gambit
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Amazing circa 1987, 30 year old whataboutism!
So given Tunney’s denial, Kampelman’s memoir, and also questions about the reliability of KGB memos in general, we rate Owens’ claim, Mostly False.
https://www.providencejournal.com/ar...NEWS/150419898
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However today we have this actual evidence of collusion in plain sight
Trump asked Russia to find Clinton’s emails. On or around the same day, Russians targeted her accounts
I guess he doesn't know Putin except for the Moscow Trump Tower Deal where he offered to grease Vladimir 50 million to lubricate the deal
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03-30-2019, 09:05 AM
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Eye-catching .gifs notwithstanding, this PolitiFact article, not surprisingly, never mentions historian Paul Kengor, who is the primary researcher of this issue and who, in point of fact, corresponded with the late senator's office regarding it. The office merely disputed the "interpretation" of the letter.
If you look hard enough, you can find another PolitiFact article that grudgingly includes Kengor, without questioning his conclusion, down near the bottom (of course) of a lengthy piece.
Whataboutism is pretty handy for pointing out rank hypocrisy.
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03-30-2019, 10:22 AM
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03-30-2019, 10:23 AM
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My gut feeling is that those hollering the loudest for releasing the report were not able to read and comprehend the 4 pages to begin with!
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03-30-2019, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Amazing circa 1987, 30 year old whataboutism!
So given Tunney’s denial, Kampelman’s memoir, and also questions about the reliability of KGB memos in general, we rate Owens’ claim, Mostly False.
https://www.providencejournal.com/ar...NEWS/150419898
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However today we have this actual evidence of collusion in plain sight
Trump asked Russia to find Clinton’s emails. On or around the same day, Russians targeted her accounts
https://youtu.be/3kxG8uJUsWU
I guess he doesn't know Putin except for the Moscow Trump Tower Deal where he offered to grease Vladimir 50 million to lubricate the deal
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Trump Did Not Collude with Russia... your boy Mueller backs that up.
Sure Trump said in a Sarcastic Joking Tongue-in-Cheek manner.
Hey Boris... Hillary wiped her server "with a clothe" you guys per chance got a backup copy?
And yous guys freak on it...
BUT
Hillary Clinton actually collude with the Russians to influence the election.
And yous guys are like...
Nothing to see here...
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03-30-2019, 05:17 PM
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Let’s play the what if game. Let’s say there was a Democrat in office, you guys wouldn’t want to see the full report?
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03-30-2019, 05:33 PM
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Of course we would.
All that is legal to reveal.
It is going to be released - do you not understand that?
You can't wait two weeks or less, while due diligence is performed?
In cooperation with the guy who wrote it?
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03-30-2019, 05:43 PM
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Of course we would.
All that is legal to reveal.
It is going to be released - do you not understand that?
You can't wait two weeks or less, while due diligence is performed?
In cooperation with the guy who wrote it?
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It’s funny when you get feisty for no reason.
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03-30-2019, 05:45 PM
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Google feisty - I don't think it means what you think it means.
Or else you just take yourself too seriously.
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What did that law professor say on twitter? Imagine if Ken Starr handed his report on Bill Clinton to Janet Reno...and, after reading it in private, Reno only relayed a 4-page summary to the general public. But...hey...whatever it takes for "democracy to win".
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I know, Bill Clinton committed perjury and that was OK to the Democrats, liberals and those Clinton supporters that also condoned rape, sexual misconduct, and selling military secrets to the Chinese, as Clinton did in all three instances.
Donald Trump has been accused of obstructing justice and collusion with Russia and when it was found by Mueller after 2+ years that none of that happened, Barr issuing a 4-page memo of The Mueller Report gets the hate Trump lunatics in a tizzy.
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Google feisty - I don't think it means what you think it means.
Or else you just take yourself too seriously.
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Touchy and aggressive is the definition. It describes you well.
You thinking someone takes themselves too seriously is laugh out loud funny.
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03-30-2019, 05:50 PM
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I know, Bill Clinton committed perjury and that was OK to the Democrats, liberals and those Clinton supporters that also condoned rape, sexual misconduct, and selling military secrets to the Chinese, as Clinton did in all three instances.
Donald Trump has been accused of obstructing justice and collusion with Russia and when it was found by Mueller after 2+ years that none of that happened, Barr issuing a 4-page memo of The Mueller Report gets the hate Trump lunatics in a tizzy.
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TIS!!!
MAGA!!!
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03-30-2019, 05:51 PM
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Feisty
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03-30-2019, 05:52 PM
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Stupid.
If I am being what you think is feisty, I feel sorry for your women!
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