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01-30-2019, 10:38 PM
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#1667
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Originally Posted by ReplayRandall
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Originally Posted by Jeff P
I didn't bet the race either.
Based on the so called head on view that was shown while the announcer explained the DQ:
The #9 did come over. It looked to me like the horses got close to each other, but I didn't see an actual bump. The rider of the #9 was no longer using his whip. But he did extend his left arm outward towards the other horse while shaking the reigns.
Do the stewards have video from a better angle showing something more definitive?
Based on what I saw: I would have let the results stand.
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It looked to me, and I could be wrong (I didn’t watch the link Randall provided, going by what I saw on the stream) that the bumping occurred very late.the 9 passed the 3 way before the incident and it looked like the 3 had every chance to go by the 9 and couldn’t. I have a hard time believing odds did not influence that decision
Last edited by Fightingirish51195; 01-30-2019 at 10:42 PM.
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02-13-2019, 08:53 PM
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#1668
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Race 1 at Mahoning today. The winner was DQ’d. If you watch the head on the 5 actually comes out on the 3 twice and the path the 3 was on at the top of the stretch was the same path he finished in. Yet the stewards disqualified the winner. This was such a horrible decision.
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02-13-2019, 10:28 PM
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#1669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arw629
Race 1 at Mahoning today. The winner was DQ’d. If you watch the head on the 5 actually comes out on the 3 twice and the path the 3 was on at the top of the stretch was the same path he finished in. Yet the stewards disqualified the winner. This was such a horrible decision.
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Agree, putrid DQ
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03-08-2019, 01:37 PM
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#1670
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TAM 03-08-2019 R2
This post isn't about whether or not the stewards made the right call in dismissing the objection (#4 vs. the winner #6.)
This post IS about the video presentation Tampa Bay Downs used to show the alleged incident from the midpoint on the turn through the upper stretch.
The graphics are blocking the incident that you're trying to show.
Suggestion: LOSE THE GRAPHICS so we can see the incident!
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03-30-2019, 02:02 PM
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#1671
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Race 3 Philadelphia, as #1 is going by #1 in the stretch, #1 comes out into #2 three times, hard the second time. No inquiry, no objection, and no more Philadelphia Park for me.
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03-30-2019, 02:40 PM
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#1672
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 361
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Hero
Race 3 Philadelphia, as #1 is going by #1 in the stretch, #1 comes out into #2 three times, hard the second time. No inquiry, no objection, and no more Philadelphia Park for me.
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do you mean Parx? was there 2 1's entry?
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04-01-2019, 12:25 PM
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#1673
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Pan American non-disqualification
Just wondering if anybody thinks or thought that Melmich should have been disqualified for interfering with #4 Delacour horse. I mean it cost me the triactor, superfecta and exacta. I keyed Focus group with part wheel of the 3-4 with 234. Just wondering.
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04-18-2019, 05:07 PM
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#1674
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I've seen some hairy dq's in my day but this one is the worst. GP race 8. The horses bumped each other over and over and they dq the winner and didn't take 90 seconds to decide to dq.
I'm going to HK racing. At least they don't screw around as much and the big boys don't screw up the odds from 3-1 down to 1-5 in the last flash. Anybody who plays North American racing is a masochist.
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04-28-2019, 08:16 PM
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Interesting call on the 11th race at GP
What should the correct call be, I am not sure what they did taking the winner down and placing him 2nd. The horse they moved up from 2nd , fouls another horse and never does pass the winner? Just wondering what other think of this logic? or lack of it?
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04-29-2019, 01:12 PM
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#1676
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Location: Nebraska
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG49010
Interesting call on the 11th race at GP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02tE1Sabmzk
What should the correct call be, I am not sure what they did taking the winner down and placing him 2nd. The horse they moved up from 2nd , fouls another horse and never does pass the winner? Just wondering what other think of this logic? or lack of it?
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I had the ice cold / exacta so I was fine with the outcome but here is my logic. First off, let’s be honest with ourselves. The drifted out at least 3 full paths in stretch pushing the the whole way. The was a mere head behind for the win. That’s a no-brainer DQ there for me.
The did make contact with the trying to get outside the to make a run. This contact happens all the time especially at GP without a DQ, with the exception being if the horse that was bumped still finishes strongly behind the horse initiating contact. IMO, had the finished something like a half length behind the or I think you see a double DQ of the and
Instead the was beaten for 3rd by the so what do you expect here? to be declared winner over the then ? It’s pretty evident to those watching the and were heads and shoulders the best two in the race.
Again, just my 2 cents from someone that had the /
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04-29-2019, 01:23 PM
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Location: Maryland
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were racing to for the win, and the 'herded' him out to the 5-path.
I think it was as good a call as they could make.
Some situations you can't have everything perfectly fair. They mess up a lot, but I think this was the 'most fair' of the possible decisions.
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04-29-2019, 01:31 PM
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Location: Nebraska
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Had a double going in this race, and had the , , , , and . What ever happened I was going to get paid. The started "drifting out" when the started his move, and caused the to bump the . Then the kept "drifting out" all the way down the stretch. Ended up making contact with the just before the wire and was about five or six paths off the rail when this happened. I could have seen them putting the behind the even, but the stewards made the right decision, IMO.
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04-30-2019, 09:01 PM
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#1679
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
were racing to for the win, and the 'herded' him out to the 5-path.
I think it was as good a call as they could make.
Some situations you can't have everything perfectly fair. They mess up a lot, but I think this was the 'most fair' of the possible decisions.
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Yep. There's one thing that's an almost assured disqualification in American racing, and that is 2 horses dueling in the stretch, one horse forcing the other horse out several paths, and a photo finish. The stewards will almost automatically assume that the interference cost the other horse the win. This is what got Perrault taken down in the 1982 Santa Anita Handicap.
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05-04-2019, 07:12 PM
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#1680
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Location: Dark Side of the Moon
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Derby 2019....whatever they decide is gonna be controversial.
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