Brisnet -- DRF Speed Rate + Variant

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Denny

Crist hired Beyer for the Racing Times - better figures were available.

Crist brought them to DRF - again, better figures were available - and still are.

People are paying a premium for a substandard set of figures because of Crist and Beyer.

Cronyism. Two writers, one for the NY Times, one for the WP.

The Eclipse award for a substandard product. The fix was in, so to speak. DRF originates the award and it's people vote for winners.

Beyer "stole" the figures from someone and didn't give the figures the originator's name. Only a small mention in the first book.

Which wouldn't even exist if not for Kovitz. Beyer came up with NOTHING on his own.

Kind of like what other famous "inventor's" have done.

[They should, at the very least, be Kovitz/Beyer Speed Figures.]

Beyer is a talented writer and supposedly a successful horseplayer.

You'd never know from the selections he makes every year for the Derby.

I think he made far, far more on his books and selling the figs now than he ever did betting horses.

I just called someone else an asshole on this board...you just earned the second one of the day.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Denny

Crist retired and abandoned the sport.

I hope one day you have a heart attack that puts you in the hospital for two weeks....then we'll see how you respond afterwards and you and Crist can compare notes.

We'll see what you end up "abandoning."

People keep telling me that there are clueless assholes posting on my board. Now I see what they mean.

[Denny]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Which were the "better figures" that Crist could have elected to include in the Racing Times?

Jerry Brown's, to name just one.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by GhostZapper1358

Having been a true fan of thoroughbred racing and have studied most of the "Angles" for over thirty years, I have found Regression Analysis handicapping to be very effective and useful especially for exotic considerations.

We know...you told us to google "Regression Analysis", in another thread here. I googled it...but didn't find anything horse racing-specific.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by Denny

Jerry Brown's, to name just one.

Come on Denny, tell the truth. You can't afford Jerry Brown's figures...and you know it. If you could afford Brown's figures...then you wouldn't be complaining about the price of the DRF.

Beyer's figures were the best affordable figures at that time...even if you deny it.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Denny

Good ideas. DRF is overpriced.

People are paying $10 or $11 for a printed DRF.

How much of that is the BSFigures per track?

Crist and Beyer together drove the price way up.

Crist retired and abandoned the sport.

Beyer makes a healthy income thanks to Crist.

They got eclipse awards for making money off all of us. Still do?

Just my opinion.

Check your history - when the Beyers came to the Form in 1992, there was no price increase.

We get it - you don't know how to use them.

And Crist brought the Form in to the 20th Century - from a pretty much worthless paper to a wealth of useful information.

Brown's figs would never had made it in the Form - far too different for the masses to understand them. And what do yousuppose the From would cost if they did use them?

$25 per track per day?
$100 for a Saturday Form?

[Denny]

You guys are just plain dumb.

The cost to an individual for TGraph is irrelevant. The Form wouldn't pay that price. The comparison you make is a non sequitur.

So what Crist had a minor heart attack? That was a couple years ago.

So did Baffert and countless others that came back to work afterwards. They work a lot harder than Crist ever did with his fingers on a keyboard.

How hard would it be to write something once in a while from home???

He just plain left because he doesn't care anymore.

How do you run this site, calling people names like you do for expressing an opinion.

No wonder you need donations to keep it going.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Denny

So what Crist had a minor heart attack? That was a couple years ago.

Such a clueless asshole. Not many people get that from me around here. Only special, clueless assholes like yourself.

Minor heart attacks don't put you in the hospital for two weeks. Read MORE facts, create LESS fiction.

Thank me very much.

[Denny]

Thaskalos your a smart guy, unlike PA and that fool Tom who makes jokes all the time to cover for his stupidity.

I'm just returning the insults to them. Something I didn't start.

You, I could discuss things with civilly. I think.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Denny

No wonder you need donations to keep it going.

Must be using the same reasoning you used to come to the conclusion minor heart attacks put you in the hospital for two weeks.

You've been on the fringe since you got here with some of the crap you've flung at the wall.

Glad your true colors are finally starting to bloom.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Denny

You, I could discuss things with civilly. I think.

You can't discuss much with anyone, because your head is filled with garbage.

[Denny]

The man had a heart attack quite a while ago, from what I read. People have hearts replaced and still function well afterwards.

Can't even type anymore?

Is he in a coma? Is he paralyzed?

How often do you talk to him PA?

Why do you care what I think?

He just QUIT the sport, till I see otherwise anyway.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Denny

How do you run this site, calling people names like you do for expressing an opinion.

And saying the things you said about Crist wasn't an opinion. It borders on libel. You kook.

[Denny]

And YES, there are an amazing amount of dumb clueless people at this site.

You included, PA. Whatever your real name is.

Why not use it???

[Denny]

LIBEL. FOR SAYING HE ABANDONED THE SPORT?

You are dumb.