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Old 10-16-2022, 04:48 PM   #1
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50 years of handicapping Thoroughbreds

Now then, for any given track, do not play
races with any of the following characteristics.
This will limit you to only playing one to three
races for the day.

- do not play maiden races (which includes
first time starters)

- do not play races that have more than
11 horses running.

- do not play races shorter than 5.5 furlongs.

- do not play races longer than 1 1/8 miles in distance.

- do not play races for 2 year olds only.

- do not play races where there are five entries
with program odds of 5/1 or less.

- do not play races with less than six runners.

When I say do not play them, what I really mean
is do not bet them. The risk is high and the
payoffs are low. I can't tell you how many years
it took to finally figure this out.
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Old 10-16-2022, 07:46 PM   #2
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now you tell me!
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Old 10-17-2022, 04:51 PM   #3
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50 yrs or so betting .... i bet with the form and or hunch bets(my late mothers method) and never play a favorite to win... doubles pk3 ETC maybe then a favorite......hunch bets pay 50-1...pick with form you will be lucky with a 20$ winner in a win bet- and of course dont bet every race unless u only bet once in a while!!
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Old 10-18-2022, 11:58 AM   #4
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Now then, for any given track, do not play
races with any of the following characteristics.
This will limit you to only playing one to three
races for the day.

- do not play maiden races (which includes
first time starters)

- do not play races that have more than
11 horses running.

- do not play races shorter than 5.5 furlongs.

- do not play races longer than 1 1/8 miles in distance.

- do not play races for 2 year olds only.

- do not play races where there are five entries
with program odds of 5/1 or less.

- do not play races with less than six runners.

When I say do not play them, what I really mean
is do not bet them. The risk is high and the
payoffs are low. I can't tell you how many years
it took to finally figure this out.
It is difficult to adequately explain how many strategic errors are expressed here, but let me offer the following counter examples.

[1] Your screening criteria would have you playing a 7f dirt race for Clm16000nw2L over the Hopeful at Saratoga.

[2] You will miss most off-the-turf races which are notoriously misbet and provide value - this due to your field size restriction.

[3] You are allowing the morning line maker to screen your races based on potentially inaccurate assessments.

Your rules make one think that harness racing is right up your alley.

Honestly, I do not understand the concept that the "risk is high and the payoffs are low". How is this measured in your context? To me, this sounds as if you are not evaluating value, only the toteboard payouts.
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Old 10-18-2022, 04:23 PM   #5
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I agree with some of his points. I'll take any nw2l race the Hopeull, or forthat matter, amy 2yo stake anywhere, and I never play off turf races. We play the way we feel comfortable.

My experience is that few places accept value as payment, but everyone takes the payouts.
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