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09-03-2022, 05:30 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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Flower Bowl
What an embarrassing ride by Joel Rosario. I'm speechless. I didn't even bet the race, but you could see very early on he was begging for trouble.
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09-03-2022, 07:28 PM
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
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Last edited by JustRalph; 09-03-2022 at 07:34 PM.
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09-03-2022, 07:38 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
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I had to shave midway arounf the last turn.
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09-03-2022, 07:47 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 153
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
What an embarrassing ride by Joel Rosario. I'm speechless. I didn't even bet the race, but you could see very early on he was begging for trouble.
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I saw where Andy didn't agree with what some of us thought was a horrible ride.
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09-03-2022, 08:44 PM
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self medicated
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: toga
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It’s my one knock on Rosario . He is not aggressive enough , never has been. Especially, at Saratoga . That’s why Irad cleans up here. I’ve been coming here for 40 plus years. Being in front or in striking range is …….. huge! Cordero did it , Bailey did it . Now Irad. Won 4 today I believe. You gotta take it and want it. If people think you’re too much and give you crap ..,,.. even better. If you get a cheap lead here and the better horse is too far back , under dry circumstances, game over ! Being overly patient here just to save ground …… no. Schooled . It’s funny how people don’t think that works here. If you let guys like this off the hook with easy pickings early . They literally can dictate a race. As good as this horse is what do you expect? I believe the last quarter was the fastest. Gotta look at it just got home . Burnt 🥵 . Tom? Was it just a shave or did you get a haircut too? Asking for a friend .
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09-03-2022, 09:49 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2009
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Rosario is a good rider but he is too inconsistent on a regular basis
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09-03-2022, 11:43 PM
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SaratogaFan1
Join Date: Mar 2022
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According to TLG anyone who criticizes the ride is an idiot. Never mind the fact that he is overly complementary of Rosario and unnecessarily condescending to bettors on Twitter.
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09-03-2022, 11:52 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by $w1fT
According to TLG anyone who criticizes the ride is an idiot. Never mind the fact that he is overly complementary of Rosario and unnecessarily condescending to bettors on Twitter.
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Come on, that isn't what he said. He disagreed, which is fine. The entire premise of the game is about disagreeing with others. Andy is entitled to be wrong sometimes.
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09-04-2022, 12:00 AM
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SaratogaFan1
Join Date: Mar 2022
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Come on, that isn't what he said. He disagreed, which is fine. The entire premise of the game is about disagreeing with others. Andy is entitled to be wrong sometimes.
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Ok I maybe didn’t take the words verbatim but me and you know he looks down on the “nitwits” on Twitter. (His words not mine)
The way the FOX broadcast has unnecessarily promoted jockeys all meet it should not be out of bounds to criticize a jocks ride on a 1-5.
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09-04-2022, 08:37 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2022
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It was a terrible ride, hard to understand anyone saying otherwise.
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09-04-2022, 08:38 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 7,333
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Quote:
Originally Posted by $w1fT
According to TLG anyone who criticizes the ride is an idiot.
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Feel free to find the evidence of this. When you can't, apologize and then stop lying about me.
Thanks in advance.
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09-04-2022, 09:39 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 436
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Joel is best jockey at Toga
Joel is 12 wins shy and 1 million away from matching Irad’s numbers. But wait ! Irad has 80!!!!! more starts then Joel. What a meet Joel is having.
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09-04-2022, 10:01 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2017
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WLG looked to be comfortable the entire trip, never really got checked or had to alter course, and finished as she always does. Just came up short.
On the surface it looks bad but to change the outcome would mean to change her running style to one of more of a stalking/pressing type. That would have meant running, without cover, at least two wide but possible three of four wide for a 3 turn race. That's not her game, and unless Rosario was told by Mott otherwise, he rode her exactly to the trainer's instructions.
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09-04-2022, 10:03 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Queens, NY
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He gave that horse the perfect ride if she was a 15-1 shot that needed to save some ground and hope to get some pace help up front in order to win.
When you are riding a 1-5 shot in a small to moderate sized field the primary objective is to stay out of trouble outside.
It looked like a paceless race going into it. There’s not much he could do about that, but you don’t want to give the other riders a chance to race ride and keep you pinned in too far back on top of that. That’s the #1 way you are going to lose. The laughable part about it is that before the race someone asked me if she could get beat and I said “the only way she gets beat is if she gets pinned in until too late because this pace is going to be very slow”.
After going inside, he had one chance early to drop back a little and get outside and he chose not to do it. That allowed the others to keep him pinned in and have too much to do late.
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Last edited by classhandicapper; 09-04-2022 at 10:17 AM.
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09-04-2022, 11:57 AM
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Beat up 💪
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Beach life in Fort Lauderdale
Posts: 11,938
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Split second decisions
I love hearing Jockeys say.
Godammn you thinks it's easy!! WE ARE FOLLOWED BY AN AMBULANCE ! We are making split second decisions!!
6 Furlings in 119. 😆.
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